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    The First Year Of the NDP (comments & concerns)

    It's been three weeks since the Alberta election. Oh...sorry...the historic Alberta election. **rolls eyes** Sorry...I've heard enough of that.

    What I've seen in the last three weeks isn't encouraging. I know that politicians like to sell hope, but what people ultimately want is professional government. The first three weeks look like amateur hour to me.

    To be fair, the Alberta NDP haven't ever formed government. They have no knowledge base except that available to them from the legislature apparatus. But what I want and expect from an elected political leader is intelligence. I'm seeing things that make me second guess my initial rosy assessment of Rachel Notley.

    1. Vet Your Candidates

    Sure, Ms. Notley didn't expect to win when she set out on the campaign trail. That doesn't excuse her or her party from vetting candidates properly. How the left in this province howled over the improper vetting done by the Wildrose in 2012. What's good for the goose.....

    2. A Small Cabinet makes No Sense

    Perhaps Ms. Notley doesn't see a depth of talent on her team (see point #1). Perhaps she really does believe that she can save the taxpayer some money by having fewer ministers. But those of us who follow politics closely know how badly rookie ministers can struggle to find their legs. Ms. Notley is now giving untested, inexperienced MLAs not one, but two or three portfolios to wrestle with. This is a recipe for a disastrous first year. I also have to wonder what the thinking is behind deliberately putting people in portfolios that don't match their experience. David Eggen knows healthcare, yet gets Education. Sarah Hoffman knows Education but gets Health. Lori Sigurdson has no elected experience and gets two of the biggest ministries in government at once in Advanced Education and Labour. Maybe she should ask Stephen Khan how that turned out for him. None of this makes sense.

    3. No Budget Until The Fall

    The Prentice budget was never passed. The fiscal year began April 1. So we'll have to wait until half way through the fiscal year before we know what's what fiscally. In the mean time school boards and post secondaries have no idea what to do for September. Nobody has a clue what they can count on for a budget. I can get not throwing something together in three weeks. But it seems that Ms. Notley has a pretty good idea what she wants to do. Why wait 4 months? It's not responsible.


    People can stand out in the sun cheering like these politicians are rockstars if they want. And it is great to see young people engaged and hopeful. But life has a way of being real. Ms. Notley will, as a matter of course, disappoint many of those young hipsters. She's not going to give them everything they want. And in time she will will be the one vilified and accused of being in bed with oil companies and corporations. Fair or not, it will happen. This is politics. Bank on it. After all, why would voters or partisan politicos be fair? That would mean accepting reality and paying attention to the details. Complaining is much more fun. Making silly mistakes out of the gate won't help the NDP.
    Last edited by Deathsdoorstep; 05-25-2015, 09:24 AM.

    #2
    Re: The First Three Weeks Of NDP Aren't Encouraging

    Agreed on all counts.

    And let's not forget the impending chaos that's bound to come with the gradual raise of minimum wage. Sure, a bunch of McDonald's employees are going to be happy...but you just know that a higher minimum wage is going to lead to higher prices, layoffs to save money, and maybe even total closure for some businesses which can't afford that high of a wage.
    Keep an open mind, and you never know who might walk in...

    RIP Pizmo

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      #3
      Re: The First Three Weeks Of NDP Aren't Encouraging

      Sarah Hoffman NOT being the Education minister is going to tick some people off for sure, especially after seeing how much support was behind her from the public for that position. Kind of a head scratcher there but that's how politics are. They just don't make sense at times.

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        #4
        Re: The First Three Weeks Of NDP Aren't Encouraging

        Originally posted by Jtuck09 View Post
        Sarah Hoffman NOT being the Education minister is going to tick some people off for sure, especially after seeing how much support was behind her from the public for that position. Kind of a head scratcher there but that's how politics are. They just don't make sense at times.
        But wtf is she doing with Health?!?!?

        How about giving Health to your Health Critic, at least to start with?

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          #5
          Re: The First Three Weeks Of NDP Aren't Encouraging

          The whole thing with this Drever girl bothers me. An NDP supporter will immediately point to a PC candidate and some scandal. I don't deny that for a second. These days it's hard to find a government official that doesn't have something come up. However, usually they actually have to be in office and work for a little while before some controversy happens. IN the case of the Wildrose in 2012, they at least punted the candidates that did something stupid during the election to try and make it better. NDP just let this girl go because it is obvious they have no intentions of winning, they just needed a live body to run.

          My wife works for Alberta Health, so of course the election is a hot topic. She told me a horror story of the NDP candidate in Innisfail. The previous one was a Wildrose Kerry Towle who crossed to the PC. Towle in this last election ran as a PC so no one voted for her. They also decided they were mad at the Wildrose so they voted NDP. Here's the horror story. The NDP candidate that won had no intention of being an MLA. He went into the NDP office and asked if he could volunteer to help and they convinced him to run because their goal was to have a candidate in every riding. SO not only did they not screen him, they put a candidate that didn't even want to be a politician. How many other brand new MLA's are exactly like that?

          The whole cabinet thing I think is a joke. They have MLA's handing 2, 3, 4 portfolio's at once. Regardless of who the government is, the MLA's in charge don't seem to do a very good job handing 1 portfolio, how the hell are they going to handle multiple? Plus I have to think that part of the reason they have so few cabinet ministers is because the majority of the MLA's are so grossly under qualified they can't possibly be given anything. A 20 something university student isn't qualified to be a minister of something. The one 20 yr old computer science student was in high school 2 years ago. The MLA in Red Deer south, the person who supposedly represents ME, worked at Safeway prior to being elected.

          So all the people that drilled me on when I was complaining about many of the "new blood" being too young and not qualified and their response was they will be back benchers. Well it's already biting Albertans in the ass because there isn't enough qualified people to serve cabinet positions. We thought the last government sucked at meeting the needs of Albertans. What kind of service can we expect when a cabinet ministers are overrun because they are having to manage 2-4 times as many portfolio's than they should be.
          Blindly accept whatever they do and if it doesn't work out, I guess there's always next year.

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            #6
            Re: The First Three Weeks Of NDP Aren't Encouraging

            Originally posted by Smartie123 View Post
            But wtf is she doing with Health?!?!?

            How about giving Health to your Health Critic, at least to start with?
            That was my point...

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              #7
              Re: The First Three Weeks Of NDP Aren't Encouraging

              Originally posted by Jtuck09 View Post
              That was my point...
              I thought Bilous was a lock for Education Minister considering his work as Education critic but nope. Makes no sense.
              The only place success comes before work is in the dictionary.

              Vince Lombardi

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                #8
                Re: The First Three Weeks Of NDP Aren't Encouraging

                Here's the case study that Albertans should be looking at. The City of Seattle has raised minimum wage to $15 and restaurants are closing at a higher rate than the rest of the country. Those minimum wage jobs are disappearing. The idea that minimum wage is supposed to represent a living wage is so out of touch. Yes it's true that nobody is buying a house making $10.20 per hour but nobody will buy a house making $15 per hour either.

                http://www.forbes.com/sites/timworst...-minimum-wage/

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                  #9
                  Re: The First Three Weeks Of NDP Aren't Encouraging

                  Originally posted by Rids View Post
                  Here's the case study that Albertans should be looking at. The City of Seattle has raised minimum wage to $15 and restaurants are closing at a higher rate than the rest of the country. Those minimum wage jobs are disappearing. The idea that minimum wage is supposed to represent a living wage is so out of touch. Yes it's true that nobody is buying a house making $10.20 per hour but nobody will buy a house making $15 per hour either.

                  http://www.forbes.com/sites/timworst...-minimum-wage/
                  True, but they might be able to pay rent at 15 bucks an hour. I'm in the minority, but I am of the belief that as a business owner, if you can't afford to pay your staff a living wage, you shouldn't be in business.
                  Hope, at the end of the day connects us all, no matter how different we are

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                    #10
                    Re: The First Three Weeks Of NDP Aren't Encouraging

                    Originally posted by Rids View Post
                    Here's the case study that Albertans should be looking at. The City of Seattle has raised minimum wage to $15 and restaurants are closing at a higher rate than the rest of the country. Those minimum wage jobs are disappearing. The idea that minimum wage is supposed to represent a living wage is so out of touch. Yes it's true that nobody is buying a house making $10.20 per hour but nobody will buy a house making $15 per hour either.

                    http://www.forbes.com/sites/timworst...-minimum-wage/
                    I only make 16.45 per hour and own 2 houses though. Jean and I aren't married so she is not on the Ownership of ether one.
                    Run the Ball up the gut around the horn it does not matter. We run we win what is so difficult to understand.

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                      #11
                      Re: The First Three Weeks Of NDP Aren't Encouraging

                      So ironic that Stephen Mandel lost as a PC when he was pretty much a liberal/ndp mayor.
                      He would have been a good Minister of Health.
                      He made a point - even when he was a municipal politician - of talking to people that actually work in health care about what is working & what is not.
                      A big part of the problem has been these Health Ministers that have no clue & let their staff guide them....and their staff have no clue either.

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                        #12
                        Re: The First Three Weeks Of NDP Aren't Encouraging

                        A few things from the outside looking in.

                        1) The size of cabinet: I really have no problem with the size of the cabinet. It is the bureacrats that do most of the heavy lifting when it comes to ministries any way. These people get the orders from the minister/ruling party, but they actually put things into place. Also she was in a no win situation. IF she apointed 24 ministers (just for example), people would be complaining that it si a typical big government NDP. SHe appointed 12 (which saves money) so now she is in trouble for it being to small.

                        2) Cabinet Make up: This one I have to agreee with people on. I do not know all of the ministers, but the one that surprised me the most was the one in charge of the oil industy (not sure what it is actually called). I believe she was in Education, not sure how this translates to the oil industry. That being said she does have a lot of rookie MLAs so their had to be people in areas that that may not fit. I Would think though that you would want your most senior people in the most important positions (like Energy, Finance, Health and Education).

                        3) Vetting candidates: I agree and I do not on this one. There were some cases where the person that was choosen was just a name on the ballot and nothing more. They were not expected to win that night, but they wanted a name. I heard of one situation (and this maybe the example given above), that the person had to be pulled away from another campaign headquarters that they volunteered in, because they were actually leading the election (they eventually won as well). By just putting names in, it does open up the party to questionable candidtaes winning. Then again if people did their homework on the actual candidate this would not happen.

                        4) Min Wage: There is no way that people can live any where on the current Min wage, any where in Canada. It does need to go up. I believe that here in Saskatchewan the increase is actually tied to inflation or CPI, not sure which. Does it need to go up quickly to $15 an hour. Probably not, and you may see the NDP back off a bit on this, where it will be over 4 or 5 years rather than the 3 that they campaigned on. Remember they did say that it would not go up instantly.

                        5) Budget: With the NDP just getting into power they do need time to formulate their own budget. This does not happen over night so a fall budget sounds reasonable to me, blame Prentice for not passing his budget before the election for any bills that will have be done before then. HE had a large majority, so he could have passed his budget easily before the election.
                        "Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy."

                        "The only thing I ever feared was failure" - Dan Kepley

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                          #13
                          Re: The First Three Weeks Of NDP Aren't Encouraging

                          See...the way a lot of people were talking, I thought that by now the province would have been under Martial Law because all of the systems would have broken down. It was basically going to be a zombie apocalypse! They were just sworn in yesterday and sure, the girl with the not so smart social media ideas aside - they really haven't had a chance to do anything yet. Three weeks into a Liberal or Wildrose win and we'd probably be seeing the same results.
                          Maybe that's just me being overly optimistic though.

                          I think the housing market is a bit different in Windsor Dan. Here, you might be able to get something making $34k/year but it'll be a run down shack in hookerville.
                          Once an Eskimo, ALWAYS an Eskimo.

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                            #14
                            Re: The First Three Weeks Of NDP Aren't Encouraging

                            I'm left with questions regarding the cabinet but I do like going with a smaller cabinet. Raising the minimum wage was a damn good move and something that was badly needed considering the cost of living in this province.

                            All in all though....WWWAAAYYY too early to really judge what is going to happen.
                            Quote from Inquiring Mind:

                            Of course stamphater is sacred... we all worship the ground he walks on.

                            #PizStrong

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                              #15
                              Re: The First Three Weeks Of NDP Aren't Encouraging

                              Originally posted by stamphater View Post
                              I'm left with questions regarding the cabinet but I do like going with a smaller cabinet. Raising the minimum wage was a damn good move and something that was badly needed considering the cost of living in this province.

                              All in all though....WWWAAAYYY too early to really judge what is going to happen.
                              Mistakes are mistakes, early or not. Giving rookies 2 and 3 ministries each is just plain stupid. Not vetting candidates is stupid. Taking 4 months to budget is stupid.

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