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    #31
     
    Hope, at the end of the day connects us all, no matter how different we are

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      #32
      https://x.com/goelks/status/1790744180366458968?s=46
      the Olumba release surprises me , thought he was penciled in as a starter at db

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        #33
        Riders released former Esk mark mcLaurin , I thought he was solid , I’d like him back

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          #34
          I was never as sold on McLaurin, thought he spent a fair amount of time chasing the play.

          I agree on Olumba. It'll be exciting to see some of the guys they've brought in.

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            #35
             
            Hope, at the end of the day connects us all, no matter how different we are

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              #36
               
              Hope, at the end of the day connects us all, no matter how different we are

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                #37
                 
                Hope, at the end of the day connects us all, no matter how different we are

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                  #38
                  I honestly think the addition of Shivers is going to be the biggest add of the offseason. We could use someone whos eyes are solely on the D as it, surprisingly, has been a weakness the last few years.

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                    #39
                    Having Jones as GM, HC and DC is one of the biggest mistakes the Elks have made in a while IMO. You have set yourself up to fail before you have done anything. During the offseason, you can maybe do it as you lean on your support staff but not during the season.

                    Even if as a GM you have your support staff doing the bulk of your duties, as the GM, you are still the boss so you would still have to review what they did to some degree and give your sign off and you'd still be involved. There is organizational management, roster management, cap management, injury management, signings, trades, scouting for injury replacement, scouting for future signings and the draft. All that will take some of your time week to week.

                    HC. You have your coordinators do most of the work but again, as the HC, you are the boss so you have to know what's the plan. You would be involved in the planning for each week. Roster decisions have to be made for the game, All that takes time. During the game itself. The coordinators make the play calls but the HC would know what's going on and have involvement. All that takes time.

                    DC. You are in charge of the game planning for that week. You'd be reviewing film of the other teams offense to figure out a game plan for your defense to counter act. You'd be deciding on some roster decisions for the defense. Maybe 1 player is better at something than another and is a better fit to start vs team x than another guy. Game time. You are making the D calls to counter act the offense. Between plays, you have less than 20 seconds to make the call so you have to decide what to call and have your team lined up ready in seconds. You would have some involvement in switching out guys between plays. All that takes time.

                    So one guy was doing all of that. There simply isn't enough hours each day in the week leading up to the game for one guy to be involved in GM, HC and DC duties and do them to the best of their abilities. When the DC coordinator should be breaking down film for game planning, you are off doing GM stuff or HC stuff because it needs to be done. When the game is going on, and the defense isn't on field, rather than the DC focusing on making adjustment, he's off being the head coach doing all the HC stuff that has to happen during the game. During the game, the DC would be focused solely on the defense and not worried about the other units. When you are the HC, you have to have all 3 units on your mind.

                    I know there was some factors why it was done that way but it was a very poor decision on the part of the Elks because no matter how good a guy might be or how hard he works, there is a reason why those jobs are split up because it way to much for 1 guy. So I am glad they at least brought in a guy to take over the DC.
                    Blindly accept whatever they do and if it doesn't work out, I guess there's always next year.

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                      #40
                      Looking forward to watching some football very soon.
                      Last edited by Hugoagogo; 05-16-2024, 10:27 AM.
                      Hope, at the end of the day connects us all, no matter how different we are

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                        #41
                        Originally posted by Looner View Post
                        I honestly think the addition of Shivers is going to be the biggest add of the offseason. We could use someone whos eyes are solely on the D as it, surprisingly, has been a weakness the last few years.
                        Certainly takes some workload off our HC/GM. Let's just hope he can whip some young fresh talent into shape early.
                        Hope, at the end of the day connects us all, no matter how different we are

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                          #42
                          Originally posted by Sectionq View Post
                          Having Jones as GM, HC and DC is one of the biggest mistakes the Elks have made in a while IMO. You have set yourself up to fail before you have done anything. During the offseason, you can maybe do it as you lean on your support staff but not during the season.

                          Even if as a GM you have your support staff doing the bulk of your duties, as the GM, you are still the boss so you would still have to review what they did to some degree and give your sign off and you'd still be involved. There is organizational management, roster management, cap management, injury management, signings, trades, scouting for injury replacement, scouting for future signings and the draft. All that will take some of your time week to week.

                          HC. You have your coordinators do most of the work but again, as the HC, you are the boss so you have to know what's the plan. You would be involved in the planning for each week. Roster decisions have to be made for the game, All that takes time. During the game itself. The coordinators make the play calls but the HC would know what's going on and have involvement. All that takes time.

                          DC. You are in charge of the game planning for that week. You'd be reviewing film of the other teams offense to figure out a game plan for your defense to counter act. You'd be deciding on some roster decisions for the defense. Maybe 1 player is better at something than another and is a better fit to start vs team x than another guy. Game time. You are making the D calls to counter act the offense. Between plays, you have less than 20 seconds to make the call so you have to decide what to call and have your team lined up ready in seconds. You would have some involvement in switching out guys between plays. All that takes time.

                          So one guy was doing all of that. There simply isn't enough hours each day in the week leading up to the game for one guy to be involved in GM, HC and DC duties and do them to the best of their abilities. When the DC coordinator should be breaking down film for game planning, you are off doing GM stuff or HC stuff because it needs to be done. When the game is going on, and the defense isn't on field, rather than the DC focusing on making adjustment, he's off being the head coach doing all the HC stuff that has to happen during the game. During the game, the DC would be focused solely on the defense and not worried about the other units. When you are the HC, you have to have all 3 units on your mind.

                          I know there was some factors why it was done that way but it was a very poor decision on the part of the Elks because no matter how good a guy might be or how hard he works, there is a reason why those jobs are split up because it way to much for 1 guy. So I am glad they at least brought in a guy to take over the DC.
                          In an ideal world, one where all the teams have NFL type money, this would be a better scenario for sure but we aren't the NFL and have to worry about the viability of our franchise. I read a quote from earlier in the year where Lalacheur said that we weren't NECESSARILY going to be spending up to the maximum ops cap budget, which I can understand with how much money we've been bleeding the last few years. This coupled with the fact that the ops cap actually exists, which we both agree is garbage, tied our hands when it comes to the amount of coaches we could have. The mistake I think CJ did make is that he could have taken a little less so that he could hire the proper people. That being said if someone is offering me a decent contract I'm not negotiating a wage decrease, I'm taking what is offered.

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                            #43
                            Originally posted by Hugoagogo View Post

                            Certainly takes some workload off our HC/GM. Let's just hope he can whip some young fresh talent into shape early.
                            I'm hoping the overall CFL game take a talent bump this year with one less league to compete with.

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                              #44
                              Originally posted by Looner View Post

                              I'm hoping the overall CFL game take a talent bump this year with one less league to compete with.
                              I think we already started to see it last year with many young QBs showing well for the first time in quite awhile. Hopefully it spreads through the lineups a bit.

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                                #45
                                Originally posted by Hugoagogo View Post
                                Looking forward to watching some football very soon.
                                you could watch all the highlights of our wins over the last 3 years not sure what you'll do with the rest of your night tho...
                                In Rod we trust

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