Game #9 at home vs the Argos

[Brock my Rock]

Tre is Mr Overrated. Ed should have offered him a 1 year contract. He lost there.
but he won on Cody vs MBT trade. So its a wash.

[Brock my Rock]

Ford needs to get a haircut next year or be traded.
cody is our man and should be locked up.
But there are ways to keep both. Elliot Brown might come back. Do we need Robbie Smith at his bloated salary when Brown is better faster stronger cheaper?
i get his Cdn but we dont need that many Cdns around. Keep it to min 7.

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Ford has no other options but to stay and learn as a number 2 , where in the CFL is he gonna go to be the starter ? The answer is nowhere , the only scenario that happens is if a major season ending injury to a starter or a retirement , such could be the case in Winnipeg next year , possibly Hamilton , but he is under contract for 2 more years after this season , so either he sticks as back up and learns under Cody , unless Cody leaves after one year here,he is being paid good money to be a number 2 now

Well if the Elks do decide they want Cody as their starter it might be a challenge. He is only 33 and based on what happens the rest of the season they could come to that decision. Winnipeg, Hamilton, and Sask are currently rolling with older QBs as their number 1. If they want to keep Cody they would have to offer him substantially more and with Tre's salary I'm not sure they could do that. Tre has some guaranteed money so would they just walk away from that? With him getting north of 300K could we offer Cody a similar contract to stay? Not sure we could afford it. Would he stay for high back up money like MBT ( I believe he is making $185K plus incentives as a backup with the Als). Does anyone know how much Cody is currently making? I didn't think it was that much. If the right circumstances fall into place I could see Winnipeg looking for a legit starter next season. Maybe even Sask if Harris decides to hang them up. Based on performance so far I don't see them rolling with Maier as their number 1. Next season I could see Cody leaving for greener pastures if he doesn't get the starters job here (or at least gets paid like one).

Actually just found it. He is making pretty good money:

Hard money: $180,000
Maximum value: $262,000

So maybe he stays for that if Winnipeg or Sask don't come calling. But if Cody is the starter next season how would he feel about getting less than the backup? The Elks would have to bump up his contract where he is making more than Tre. Wouldn't they?

[dealerd]

I hope so as well. Typically any young QB spends a few seasons on the sidelines learning to be a pro before becoming a starter. But the question I have is will Ford be OK with being the #2 for a bit?

I could be wrong but it didn't seem like that was the case early on. Maybe the environment is better now and he'd be more receptive to it.

Ford has no other options but to stay and learn as a number 2 , where in the CFL is he gonna go to be the starter ? The answer is nowhere , the only scenario that happens is if a major season ending injury to a starter or a retirement , such could be the case in Winnipeg next year , possibly Hamilton , but he is under contract for 2 more years after this season , so either he sticks as back up and learns under Cody , unless Cody leaves after one year here,he is being paid good money to be a number 2 now

[Looner]

I hope so as well. Typically any young QB spends a few seasons on the sidelines learning to be a pro before becoming a starter. But the question I have is will Ford be OK with being the #2 for a bit?

I could be wrong but it didn't seem like that was the case early on. Maybe the environment is better now and he'd be more receptive to it.

Without being inside his head its impossible to know but there is a difference in his body language this year compared to last. He even interrupted Fajardos presser the other day to tell everyone what his completion percentage was.

[Eskie54]

I hope so as well. Typically any young QB spends a few seasons on the sidelines learning to be a pro before becoming a starter. But the question I have is will Ford be OK with being the #2 for a bit?

I could be wrong but it didn't seem like that was the case early on. Maybe the environment is better now and he'd be more receptive to it.

He does seem to be more engaged with Cody on the sidelines than he was with MBT.

[Sectionq]

I just hope we can hang onto Fajardo and our OC long enough to develop Tre properly in a system that is consistent. Changing coordinators every year doesn't help with player growth as they have to learn new verbiage and the wrinkles the new OC likes to add.

I hope so as well. Typically any young QB spends a few seasons on the sidelines learning to be a pro before becoming a starter. But the question I have is will Ford be OK with being the #2 for a bit?

I could be wrong but it didn't seem like that was the case early on. Maybe the environment is better now and he'd be more receptive to it.

[Looner]

I also had written Fajardo and Adam’s off completely after their first few years in the league and I ended up being dead wrong on both in the long run so I have learned my lesson on giving up on young QBs too early. That’s why I’m not willing to say definitively that Ford doesn’t still have a future in this league eventually.

I just hope we can hang onto Fajardo and our OC long enough to develop Tre properly in a system that is consistent. Changing coordinators every year doesn't help with player growth as they have to learn new verbiage and the wrinkles the new OC likes to add.

[ben_the_eskimo]

yes i do admit i even called out and thought Fajardo was a joke way back in Toronto roster, and like a child mad fun of his name lol.
ive done it to Adams too and thought he was a me me me guy and lacked the stuff between the ears.

so yeah youre right on patience, and ive been hard on Fords standing currently, as hes just not ready at all, but id like to think that if he was more devoted, he still has a chance.

especially harder is the short term contracts of both players and coaches in this league........every year is different it seems.....makes it THAT much harder for coaches and fans like me alike to be dug in on a QB or whatever other position to develop out


on the notable receiver talk.... i have my eye on Binjimen Victor emerging maybe.... and we are also behind on all that due to start of season Ford annointment and so there has not been continuity with the offense and QB dictating to really see it though. But its a serviceable group with Dunbar showing his veteran hands

I also had written Fajardo and Adam’s off completely after their first few years in the league and I ended up being dead wrong on both in the long run so I have learned my lesson on giving up on young QBs too early. That’s why I’m not willing to say definitively that Ford doesn’t still have a future in this league eventually.

[Looner]

He seems to be having fun with Cody. Having a laugh with him at 3:19 of this video...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U2Ag3fU-z_U

Really like what Cody said about Rankin, sounds like he's all in.

[Maas_12]

I mean his first few seasons in Toronto and BC he was basically just doing QB sneaks on 3rd and 1 and had the same role at the beginning of his tenure in Sask. At that time you could have gotten Fajardo for a bucket of footballs as nobody thought he was going to amount to much. If not for an injury to Collaros he might not have ever gotten a chance. The one thing you have to be with QBs is patient and that's hard for the typical FAN-atic to grasp.

yes i do admit i even called out and thought Fajardo was a joke way back in Toronto roster, and like a child mad fun of his name lol.
ive done it to Adams too and thought he was a me me me guy and lacked the stuff between the ears.

so yeah youre right on patience, and ive been hard on Fords standing currently, as hes just not ready at all, but id like to think that if he was more devoted, he still has a chance.

especially harder is the short term contracts of both players and coaches in this league........every year is different it seems.....makes it THAT much harder for coaches and fans like me alike to be dug in on a QB or whatever other position to develop out


on the notable receiver talk.... i have my eye on Binjimen Victor emerging maybe.... and we are also behind on all that due to start of season Ford annointment and so there has not been continuity with the offense and QB dictating to really see it though. But its a serviceable group with Dunbar showing his veteran hands

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Think we can all agree Ford has a lot to learn and finally has a person who can teach him. I dont blame him for being pissy when MBT, corny etc are your other qbs over the years - they ain't gunna teach ****.

I actually thought cody had his worst game in weeks last night. Like I've been saying all year... USE RANKIN as he goes the offense goes. There is no other offense threat that can take over a game like Rankin does.

I still think they should give ford a series here and there.. see if he's learning anything.. maybe the 2nd half. Without being a Ninja and in the locker room and meetings we have no clue how Ford is taking being number 2 and if hes bought in to Learning from Cody for a possible shot at No.1 I watched Fords demeanor while on the bench, I did not see any signs of someone who is pouting. Numerous times he sat with cody on the bench and looking over the Ipad. Seemed engaged and learning what Cody was spittin' Never looked mad, depressed - smiling and pointing at the Ipad with Cody.

He seems to be having fun with Cody. Having a laugh with him at 3:19 of this video...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U2Ag3fU-z_U

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And he should. Fajardo has years under his belt and has learned from some good people.

I mean his first few seasons in Toronto and BC he was basically just doing QB sneaks on 3rd and 1 and had the same role at the beginning of his tenure in Sask. At that time you could have gotten Fajardo for a bucket of footballs as nobody thought he was going to amount to much. If not for an injury to Collaros he might not have ever gotten a chance. The one thing you have to be with QBs is patient and that's hard for the typical FAN-atic to grasp.

[ben_the_eskimo]

If you add in the game against Sask and Hamilton (who are the two top teams in the league) you can say that we've played good for 4 consecutive games.

I actually thought the Hamilton game was close to being the best game they’ve played all year, unfortunate not to come away from that one with a W.

[Looner]

Lets stay level headed. Toronto this year is the worst team in the league and it came down the wire with overtime looming if the call stood. Also Montreal is decimated with injuries playing 3rd stringers at QB. A win is a win but I dont get excited till we beat someone like Calgary or Sask.

If you add in the game against Sask and Hamilton (who are the two top teams in the league) you can say that we've played good for 4 consecutive games.