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    #1

    Is it racism?

    I hate throwing out the race card, because I know that in this country, 90% of the people are NOT racist.

    That said, I do have a problem with not being allowed into a club because of my skin colour.

    This past weekend, I was in Calgary (not willingly, I have 2 cousins there...which are moving to E-town in the summer). On friday we decided to go to the Whisky nightclub. They wouldn't allow me in because my white puma sneakers were ''violating their dress code''

    I argued that the few guys ahead of me in the line were wearing RUNNERS and they got in. They told me ''we didn't notice it''

    We ended up going to a different club....when I told a couple of my friends in both Calgary and Edmonton about this, they responded, ''yeah, they never let brown guys in.''

    I'm not naive to understand why. There are SOME brown guys who do start fights in clubs after drinking, but 95% of brown guys that go to clubs, go just what everyone else goes for.....

    Minorities are most recognizable, so I'm assuming they brushed all brown guys on the same note....that's prejudice, and to me it's ridiculous...

    How is this much different from black guys not being allowed in public places in the States a century ago?

    This hasn't been the first time complaints have been charged against clubs in Calgary....

    Sorry, just had to get this off my chest....
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    #2
    Re: Is it racism?

    I wouldn't really call it being racist per-say, predujice like you said, but not racist. But that's just my opinion.
    Last edited by Edmonton Fan; 01-23-2005, 11:14 PM.

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      #3
      Re: Is it racism?

      I feel sick to my stomach when I read your post Sandy! I am embarrassed that in this day and age people encounter such crap... I was not raised in this fashion - in my home race, religion, or skin colour where irrelevant when it came to forming an opinion on a person. I hope that by you making people aware of your situation makes them raise their children free of such ignorance. Thanks for sharing.

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        #4
        Re: Is it racism?

        I wouldn't call this racism at all!

        I've not been allowed certain bars for similar reasons ... Barry Tees of all places!!


        Quite honestly, the Whiskey CAN be a very strict bar for these sorts of things. Honestly, sometimes I can't believe that "not wearing a cowboy hat" isn't a requirement for getting barred. If they missed a guy with runners...then they are idiots. But from what you describe, this wasn't racism at all.

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          #5
          Re: Is it racism?

          Originally posted by Muley69
          I wouldn't call this racism at all!

          I've not been allowed certain bars for similar reasons ... Barry Tees of all places!!


          Quite honestly, the Whiskey CAN be a very strict bar for these sorts of things. Honestly, sometimes I can't believe that "not wearing a cowboy hat" isn't a requirement for getting barred. If they missed a guy with runners...then they are idiots. But from what you describe, this wasn't racism at all.
          I didn't feel that way either, until I was told by other close friends that they have trouble getting in that same club.

          Perhaps there isn't any racism involved....but there could be prejudice involved.

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            #6
            Re: Is it racism?

            Unfortunately thse things happen. There no way of knowing the person intentions, but for minorities the first thing that comes to mind is racism. I'm not discrediting what your saying Sandy, but i find very often people abuse these situations and make a big stink about racial profiling when in actually its nothing of the sort. if your story actually was racially motivated then it is disgusting, and frankly, if they dont want you there, fine, give your 5 bucks a drink to another bar (i know you dont drink, but you get the point). In this day and age there is no room for that.
            I told those f***s down at the league office a thousand times that I don't roll on Shabbos!

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              #7
              Re: Is it racism?

              I'd say this falls more along the lines of predujice. But this type of *poop* shouldn't be happening in this day and age. I have asian friends who were not allowed into a club because they were asian - and a few weeksa prior there was a fight inside the club involoving some white guys and som asians... so the club just barred any groups of asians.....

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                #8
                Re: Is it racism?

                Situation sucks, yeah. I'd suggest you and your friends should take your fun to someplace where the only difference of colour that matters is blue, green, red, brown if ya know what I mean.
                I will not, for a moment longer, support an organization who chooses to cowardly kneel where they once fiercely & proudly stood

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                  #9
                  Re: Is it racism?

                  I guess the way that I look at is is: "You don't want my money? Fine. I'll take it somewhere's else..."

                  The Whiskey isn't even all that good (relatively speaking)!

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                    #10
                    Re: Is it racism?

                    Prejudice is racism. Calling it prejudice does not diminish the vileness of such acts.

                    A white guy wearing sneakers gets let in.
                    A brown guy wearing sneakers gets refused.

                    That is racism.

                    Sorry that you have to put up with that kind of thing, Sandy.

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                      #11
                      Re: Is it racism?

                      Calling it prejudice does not diminish the vileness of such acts.

                      very true

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                        #12
                        Re: Is it racism?

                        Unbelievable that this still happens in this country. You'd think people would finally learn to get along already.

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                          #13
                          Re: Is it racism?

                          Originally posted by Chucker44
                          Prejudice is racism. Calling it prejudice does not diminish the vileness of such acts.

                          A white guy wearing sneakers gets let in.
                          A brown guy wearing sneakers gets refused.

                          That is racism.

                          Sorry that you have to put up with that kind of thing, Sandy.

                          ...unless they missed the "white guy" with the sneakers! It's not all that inconceivable!


                          Question: How many people prior to Sandy did they let in with sneakers -- we don't know, although there is at least one. How many people did they not allow to go in after this incident?



                          Question: How many people did they not let in, for whatever reason? How about, specifically, how many Brown people did they not let in?

                          Again, we don't know...but I've been to the Whiskey on a couple of occasions and each time there were people there of ALL skin colors! I find it suspect that this was racially motivated as, based on my previous encounters with the Whiskey, this has NOT been the case!

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                            #14
                            Re: Is it racism?

                            I'll agree Muley.....one incident isn't a good measuring device.

                            However, the fact that bothered me was after talking to other friends in Calgary and Edmonton about this, they mentioned that certain clubs do not allow brown people in because as I mentioned, SOME brown people do cause trouble.

                            I don't think the bouncers are racially motivated, or have hate towards certain ethic groups. I think the bar/club owners want some security in the club. I'm fine with that - use airport style security (i.e scanners, checks, etc), but don't paint a brush on all members of a certain ethnic group

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                              #15
                              Re: Is it racism?

                              Originally posted by Sandy - Edmonton
                              We ended up going to a different club....when I told a couple of my friends in both Calgary and Edmonton about this, they responded, ''yeah, they never let brown guys in.''
                              It seems like a precident had been set and that Sandy's experience was not the first of its kind.

                              On the other hand, Mulley saw something completely different.

                              Whatever, it doesn't seem like a place I would want to be at anyway.

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