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    Harper to Table Democratic Senate Bill

    http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNew...hub=TopStories

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    Re: Harper to Table Democratic Senate Bill

    Originally posted by Deathsdoorstep
    http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNew...hub=TopStories

    This has been a LONG time coming.....take note Liberals.....a government that is doing everything right.......
    Originally posted by Traxy
    If his moral character isn't good enough for the goddamn Saskatchewan Roughriders, it sure as hell isn't good enough for the Green and Gold.
    Interesting that it was the Riders who moaned and bitched for a salary cap, and since a cap was put in place for them, they only years they've won they broke the salary cap rules.

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      #3
      Re: Harper to Table Democratic Senate Bill

      Ha Ha Ha......the cons are like parents 'Don't do as I do do as I say.' They must have finished slipping guys into the senate that they wanted. How friggin hypocritical can you get.

      If they wanted to do some real good they would introduce a bill to abolish that stupid, bloated, tax $ wasting joke old boys club. Just an added expense to have senate elections that will not change a thing, since the senate almost never flexes it's muscle.

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        Re: Harper to Table Democratic Senate Bill

        Originally posted by Beerfish
        Ha Ha Ha......the cons are like parents 'Don't do as I do do as I say.' They must have finished slipping guys into the senate that they wanted. How friggin hypocritical can you get.

        If they wanted to do some real good they would introduce a bill to abolish that stupid, bloated, tax $ wasting joke old boys club. Just an added expense to have senate elections that will not change a thing, since the senate almost never flexes it's muscle.
        Abolishing the Senate requires a constitutional amendment.

        I agree that Harper shat the bed with Michel Fortier, but I'm not going to oppose this kind of bill over that.

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          Re: Harper to Table Democratic Senate Bill

          Hmmmm soon we will be one with the states. All the senate has and ever will be is a rubber stamp. Whether we vote for them or not. It will not change a thing.
          Through the thick and the Thin I will bleed GREEN and GOLD.

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            Re: Harper to Table Democratic Senate Bill

            Originally posted by chickenman23
            Hmmmm soon we will be one with the states. All the senate has and ever will be is a rubber stamp. Whether we vote for them or not. It will not change a thing.
            Actually, voting for senators will change things. The reason it's a rubber stamp is because they aren't elected, and therefore have no mandate to do otherwise (although that didn't stop Senate Liberals from trying to massively loosen the rules in the Accountability act, which the HoC had to fix).

            One with the states? Where do you get that from?

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              Re: Harper to Table Democratic Senate Bill

              Originally posted by chickenman23
              Hmmmm soon we will be one with the states. All the senate has and ever will be is a rubber stamp. Whether we vote for them or not. It will not change a thing.
              In the article it states that the bill to limit terms in the senate is stalled because it is Liberal dominated. There are also 10 empty senate seats that Harper could fill with his buddies, which is well within his power but he is asking the Canadian people to do this instead. He is trying to increase democracy in Canada. I would welcome US style democracy. Term limits for the President, no minority goverments, although it can feel like one sometimes. Change in Canadian politics is thankfully coming.
              When you don't know that you don't know, it's a lot different than when you do know that you don't know.

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                Re: Harper to Table Democratic Senate Bill

                I don't see how electing people to the senate will change anything. It is a waste of tax payers money and time to change what is there now. You get control of the senate by having power for years. That is they way it has always been. Tough luck to the Conservatives that all thier old boys have died or retired that used to be in there. But that is the way it is. What really bothers me is the fact that the Conservatives want to continuously change our Constitution. Leave it as it is. It has worked for years.
                Through the thick and the Thin I will bleed GREEN and GOLD.

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                  Re: Harper to Table Democratic Senate Bill

                  Originally posted by quake
                  In the article it states that the bill to limit terms in the senate is stalled because it is Liberal dominated. There are also 10 empty senate seats that Harper could fill with his buddies, which is well within his power but he is asking the Canadian people to do this instead. He is trying to increase democracy in Canada. I would welcome US style democracy. Term limits for the President, no minority goverments, although it can feel like one sometimes. Change in Canadian politics is thankfully coming.
                  So you want independance then. We run our government based on commenwealth law. If you don't like it, move to the states. I see no reason to change it. Who cares how long a PM is in power for. Maybe if there was a better choice then people would make change. And minority governments work if the people in power know how to make it work. You have to please all that are out there.
                  Through the thick and the Thin I will bleed GREEN and GOLD.

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                    Re: Harper to Table Democratic Senate Bill

                    Why should we have to move to the states if we don't like it. Canada's system needs to be updated. It's happening. Deal with it.

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                      Re: Harper to Table Democratic Senate Bill

                      I can't believe people don't want an accountable senate. How could that possible be worse?

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                        Re: Harper to Table Democratic Senate Bill

                        Originally posted by BaronAmongYou
                        I can't believe people don't want an accountable senate. How could that possible be worse?
                        Our leader could be Bush.....
                        Originally posted by Traxy
                        If his moral character isn't good enough for the goddamn Saskatchewan Roughriders, it sure as hell isn't good enough for the Green and Gold.
                        Interesting that it was the Riders who moaned and bitched for a salary cap, and since a cap was put in place for them, they only years they've won they broke the salary cap rules.

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                          #13
                          Re: Harper to Table Democratic Senate Bill

                          Originally posted by griswold
                          Our leader could be Bush.....
                          Sure, but even that has nothing to do with having an accountable Senate.

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                            #14
                            Re: Harper to Table Democratic Senate Bill

                            Originally posted by griswold
                            Our leader could be Jack Layton.....

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                              Re: Harper to Table Democratic Senate Bill

                              Originally posted by BaronAmongYou
                              Sure, but even that has nothing to do with having an accountable Senate.
                              No but it could be worse!!!

                              I agree with you 100% on the accountability of the senate though.
                              Originally posted by Traxy
                              If his moral character isn't good enough for the goddamn Saskatchewan Roughriders, it sure as hell isn't good enough for the Green and Gold.
                              Interesting that it was the Riders who moaned and bitched for a salary cap, and since a cap was put in place for them, they only years they've won they broke the salary cap rules.

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