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    No More Pandora in Canada...

    Dear Pandora listener,

    Today we have some extremely disappointing news to share with you. Due to international licensing constraints, we are deeply, deeply sorry to say that we must begin proactively preventing access to Pandora's streaming service from Canada. We began blocking access from almost all countries outside the U.S. last week and had originally hoped to maintain access to Canada. However, it has become clear in the last week that we just haven't been able to make enough progress to continue streaming.

    It is difficult to convey just how disappointing this is for us. Our vision remains to eventually make Pandora a truly global service, but for the time being, we can no longer continue as we have been. As a small company, the best chance we have of realizing our dream of Pandora all around the world is to grow as the licensing landscape allows.

    We show your IP address is 'XXXXX, which indicates you are listening from Canada. If you believe you are seeing this by mistake, we offer our sincere apologies and ask that you please reply to this email.

    Delivery of Pandora is based on proper licensing from the people who created the music - we have always believed in honoring the guidelines as determined by legislators and regulators, artists and songwriters, and the labels and publishers they work with. In the U.S. there is a federal statute that provides this license for all the music streamed on Pandora. Unfortunately, there is no equivalent license outside the U.S. and there is no global licensing organization to enable any webcaster to legitimately offer its service around the world. The volume of listening on Pandora makes it a very expensive service to run. Streaming costs are very high, and since our inception, we have been making publishing and performance royalty payments for every song we play.

    Until last week, we have not been able to tell where a listener is based, relying only on zip code information provided upon registration. We are now able to recognize a listener's country of origin based on the IP address from which they are accessing the service. Consequently, on May 16th, we will begin blocking access to Pandora to listeners from Canada. We are very sad to have to do this, but there is no other alternative.

    We will be posting updates on our blog regarding our ongoing effort to launch in other countries, so please stay in touch. We will keep a record of your existing stations and bookmarked artists and songs, so that when we are able to launch in your country, they will be waiting for you. We deeply share your sense of disappointment and greatly appreciate your understanding.


    -Tim Westergren
    (Pandora founder)
    This is a one time account message
    God I hate the RIAA.

    Hint to music companies: maybe if you got rid of the ridiculous price gouge on music, and made it possible to actually listen through a CD before buying it instead of 1 or 2 songs, piracy wouldn't be so damn rampant.

    Idiots.
    "This year, we did what we were supposed to do. We fought as a team. We fought as a team. And the fact is, we gotta go back and go to work, to make sure we finish this next time. That's all we gotta do. This right here makes us stronger. Let's understand who we are as a team. Let's understand this right here makes us stronger." - Ray Lewis, January, 2012.

    Superbowl Champs 2013.

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    Yeah.....I liked Pandora. As a service that actually opened up new bands to the general public, I think it's stupid that the music industry doesn't make it easier for them to function.
    I officially retract my vote for DDS as Prime Minister. He's clearly incompetent.

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      #3
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      Yeah.....I liked Pandora. As a service that actually opened up new bands to the general public

      thats how Napster was for me as well

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        #4
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        Just like Limewire exposes me to up and coming pornstars.
        I officially retract my vote for DDS as Prime Minister. He's clearly incompetent.

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          #5
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          This is the email I received that I was referring to earlier. But it was doing fine on my work computer. Unless it hasn't taken effect yet. Either way, this blows.

          Edit: Im a dumbass.

          May 16th this takes effect. Son of a bitch.
          Last edited by esks4life; 05-15-2007, 06:02 PM.

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            #6
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            Some people would have just edited out their whole post, thereby saving what little is left of their reputation.

            This is the email I received that I was referring to earlier. But it was doing fine on my work computer. Unless it hasn't taken effect yet. Either way, this blows.

            Edit: Im a dumbass.

            May 16th this takes effect. Son of a bitch.
            I officially retract my vote for DDS as Prime Minister. He's clearly incompetent.

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              #7
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              What for. I'm man enough to admit I made a dumbass mistake. It happens. prick.

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                #8
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                Couldn't a Canadian-based company possibly pick this up over here? According to the Canadian Supreme Court as of March 2004, IIRC, file-sharing is allowed.

                In any case this is really too bad. Pandora was great.

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                  #9
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                  Music company execs -- nearly all of them -- are still living in the stone age.


                  Right from day ONE, if the RIAA realized the POTENTIAL that Napster had and offered $1.00 downloads, there would not be this problem....

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                    #10
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                    Originally posted by Muley69
                    Music company execs -- nearly all of them -- are still living in the stone age.


                    Right from day ONE, if the RIAA realized the POTENTIAL that Napster had and offered $1.00 downloads, there would not be this problem....
                    Yup. And they'd probably make more money from that as well, being that there would be zero manufacturing costs.
                    "This year, we did what we were supposed to do. We fought as a team. We fought as a team. And the fact is, we gotta go back and go to work, to make sure we finish this next time. That's all we gotta do. This right here makes us stronger. Let's understand who we are as a team. Let's understand this right here makes us stronger." - Ray Lewis, January, 2012.

                    Superbowl Champs 2013.

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                      #11
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                      Apparently our profane little exchange was edited out, E4L. Standards are going up around here, although obviously not too far as I still see MG is posting.
                      I officially retract my vote for DDS as Prime Minister. He's clearly incompetent.

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                        #12
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                        Well membership has gone past the 1400 mark for the site.

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                          #13
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                          DAMN!!! That truly sucks. Pandora exposed me to tons of music I never would have heard of. And inspired me to buy music!
                          Turf Toe:
                          - "...turf toe is a common malady that is more of a nuisance than a serious injury."
                          - "Turf toe can often progress into a chronic problem..."
                          - "A mild instance of turf toe (grade 1) can be merely aggravating while a serious case (grade 3) can be debilitating."

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                            #14
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                            Originally posted by TurfToe
                            DAMN!!! That truly sucks. Pandora exposed me to tons of music I never would have heard of. And inspired me to buy music!
                            You were the one that introduced me and possibly others to Pandora. You had a thread about it some time ago. Ever since, I've been hooked.

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                              #15
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                              Yeah, I remember that. And I think I first heard of Pandora from someone over at 13thman. That was a while back.

                              It became on of those things that just became part of a routine for me. How often was I able to just put on Pandora to cycle through some tunes while at work to filter out the noise.

                              I bet this has more to do with ridiculous 'Can-Con' laws.
                              Turf Toe:
                              - "...turf toe is a common malady that is more of a nuisance than a serious injury."
                              - "Turf toe can often progress into a chronic problem..."
                              - "A mild instance of turf toe (grade 1) can be merely aggravating while a serious case (grade 3) can be debilitating."

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