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    Cellphones and driving...

    As you may have heard, Ontario is looking at following the lead of some other provinces in making use of cell phones (without headsets) for calls or text/email illegal. Basically it means that people caught doing this will be charged with careless driving.

    Now, while I don't see that as a bad thing, it still doesn't address the real issue which is not using cell phones, it's doing distracting things while driving. The 'new' cell phone thingy doesn't stop the ladies I see applying makeup while driving... someone going to try to tell me that action is 'safer' than using a cell phone? How about the coffee cup fiddlers, the snack unwrappers, etc, etc.

    I know, I've gone down that rant before.

    So there I was today crawling in Toronto's glorious morning traffic - made even moreso by the closure of one of the other highways, thereby forcing commuters onto the highway I use, thereby forcing me to leave home just that much earlier. The commute gives me time to watch people in their cars (2 out of 3 guys use headsets, 1 in 8 women do). A vehicle is slowly passing me on the left... I look over... hmmm that guy is obviously emailing using a blackberry... hey wait a sec, that "guy" is Pinball! tsk, tsk tsk... he should know better!

    Now I'm behind him... what's that he's doing? is he fixing his hair? he is! WHOA!! He's spraying something from a can on his hair!! Pinball uses hairspray? oh the horror!! And now he's fixing his hair and checking himself in the Vanity mirror... yeesh. Talk about getting over-ready for a Brad Watters resignation announcement!

    So there you have it folks. I don't know what was worse... the pretending to not be emailing (holding your BBerry bythe shifter doesn't fool anyone), or the obsession with his coif, or the fact that while doing all of that (and with only rare lane change signals) he managed to get ahead of me in traffic. But the bottom line is that maybe the Pinner isn't quite as saintly as some would think.
    Turf Toe:
    - "...turf toe is a common malady that is more of a nuisance than a serious injury."
    - "Turf toe can often progress into a chronic problem..."
    - "A mild instance of turf toe (grade 1) can be merely aggravating while a serious case (grade 3) can be debilitating."

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    Pretty funny stuff...

    On cellphones, I don't think it even matters if you're doing something distracting...

    A bad driver is a bad driver, cellphone or none...
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      #3
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      that wasn't hairspray.......

      it was:


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        What if your like my dad who has a cadillac and have Onstar. The car has its own phone number through onstar and you can call the car. Therefor the cellphone doesn't need to be used in the car.
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          I never used to advocate a law against driving while using a cell phone, but lately I've seen too many problems. I've had people do stupid things in traffic because they're distracted by their cell phones. I've seen people texting while driving with their hands at the top of the steering wheel and the phone between the hands. I hope the Alberta government gets off its hands and bans these things from drivers.

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            Originally posted by MoneyGuy View Post
            I never used to advocate a law against driving while using a cell phone, but lately I've seen too many problems. I've had people do stupid things in traffic because they're distracted by their cell phones. I've seen people texting while driving with their hands at the top of the steering wheel and the phone between the hands. I hope the Alberta government gets off its hands and bans these things from drivers.
            I agree - only back seat drivers should be allowed to talk on cell phones.

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              Originally posted by MoneyGuy View Post
              I never used to advocate a law against driving while using a cell phone, but lately I've seen too many problems. I've had people do stupid things in traffic because they're distracted by their cell phones. I've seen people texting while driving with their hands at the top of the steering wheel and the phone between the hands. I hope the Alberta government gets off its hands and bans these things from drivers.
              hope they dont. Lots of work uses cell calls at any time... We get customers calling us, and we have to get a hold of drivers..Cant not answer the phone, because they'll just go to another courier...

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                Originally posted by Esks4ever View Post
                hope they dont. Lots of work uses cell calls at any time... We get customers calling us, and we have to get a hold of drivers..Cant not answer the phone, because they'll just go to another courier...
                What the heck did you guys do before cell phones? I guess there was no busniess at all back then?

                Cell phones are a big hazard. People when talking on them drive like S***. I've seen a few people doing makeup or other distracting things while driving but I've personally almost been drilled at full speed 3 times by cell phone users. Almost saw a pedestrian get run right over in a crosswalk by a cell phone user.

                Cell phones are a great emergency tool for drivers but shouldn't be used at other times. They are equally a bane of alot other areas of life. The number fo times a sporting event, movie, business meeting has been interupted by those infernal things makes me cringe. I hate the things though i'm sure one day I'll end up with one.

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                  . using a cell phone doesn't magically make someone a bad driver.. that person will be a bad driver regardless if he/she has a cell phone. 9 times out of 10 the people who crash or whatever are overall a bad driver... they speed, change lanes without looking, tailgate and generally just a bad driver..... my father has been driving for 40 years and he is on his cell when he drivers and he still drivers 1000x better than most people on the road...




                  this past week i've seen.. a person watching a movie, reading the paper, applying makeup, eating , shaving, reading and lots of people on their cells... now i'm sorry but talking on a cell (imo) is way less worse than any of the others i mentioned....
                  Last edited by Esks4ever; 11-05-2008, 03:56 PM.

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                    Originally posted by Esks4ever View Post
                    . using a cell phone doesn't magically make someone a bad driver.. that person will be a bad driver regardless if he/she has a cell phone. 9 times out of 10 the people who crash or whatever are overall a bad driver... they speed, change lanes without looking, tailgate and generally just a bad driver..... my father has been driving for 40 years and he is on his cell when he drivers and he still drivers 1000x better than most people on the road...




                    this past week i've seen.. a person watching a movie, reading the paper, applying makeup, eating , shaving, reading and lots of people on their cells... now i'm sorry but talking on a cell (imo) is way less worse than any of the others i mentioned....
                    yup. Cell phones aren't the problem, people are the problem.

                    Nobody is going to convince me that things like eating cereal from a bowl, fiddling with a mug of hot coffee, screwing with an ipod, getting out a smoke and lighting it, fixing make up (or in Pinner's case, hair), reading a map book, reading anything, or turning around to deal with kids in the back seat (saw a woman do that and nearly drive off the highway) are less distracting.

                    Why not call a spade a spade and crackdown on 'in car distractions'?

                    At least in Ontario the use of a headset with a phone (I've got a wireless bluetooth one and a phone with voice recognition which works like a charm and keeps my hands on the wheel) won't be targeted.
                    Turf Toe:
                    - "...turf toe is a common malady that is more of a nuisance than a serious injury."
                    - "Turf toe can often progress into a chronic problem..."
                    - "A mild instance of turf toe (grade 1) can be merely aggravating while a serious case (grade 3) can be debilitating."

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                      The thing is people notice the drivers talking on their cells at the same time because everyone has one and it seems like everyone does it. The eating and makeup applying happens but IMO not nearly as much as people on cells.

                      I get nervous when I see a person driving and talking and you can tell they aren't focused on driving because their speed varies and they are hogging lanes and the next thing you know you are sitting at a light and this douche is flying up behind you not paying attention.

                      I've ate and drove at the same time and that takes way less concentration then having a conversation on the phone. As for applying make up, well generally that only applies to women so if you start cracking down on that women will be screaming that it's sexist.

                      Besides I always thought you could be given an undue care and attention ticket if you were pissing around like that and smacked someone.

                      I think bluetooth/wireless/headset is the best route to go. I see that a lot these days and soon enough it should catch on more and more.

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                        #12
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                        What's worse is texting. At least with talking on the phone you can still see the road, I hate seeing someone driving in their car looking down at their lap and occassionally up at the road.

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                          I never used to think using cell phones while driving was a big deal. Then this year I got one. I've used it a few times while driving, and to be honest, I scared the crap out of myself. I knew I was drifting a little and changing speeds. And that was just a short conversation. It freaks me out that people do this all the time and think they are perfect drivers. I've eaten while driving, drank coffee, etc. etc., but I've never lost that much concentration before.

                          There are other things that distract people just as much, but there are just so many people on cell phones causing so many problems that something needs to be done.
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                            Cell phones are dangerous.

                            Those of you who say the government should go after other things are crazy. I bet cell-phones account for most of the accidents and they should focus on the biggest factor. Sure the other factors are bad as well, but when 999 people out of 1000 use a cell-phone in a car and only 1 in a million puts lip-stick on in a car, it is far easier to legislate the biggest problem rather than the obscure one.
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                              #15
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                              Originally posted by Nanookster View Post
                              Cell phones are dangerous.

                              Those of you who say the government should go after other things are crazy. I bet cell-phones account for most of the accidents and they should focus on the biggest factor. Sure the other factors are bad as well, but when 999 people out of 1000 use a cell-phone in a car and only 1 in a million puts lip-stick on in a car, it is far easier to legislate the biggest problem rather than the obscure one.
                              The proper way to enact this as an enforceable law is to target ALL distractions to driving - not just the knee jerk reaction stuff. The point is to give the 'careless driving' charge teeth by targeting things that contribute to carelessness. Singling one act out of many is only going to end up with a 'precedent setting' situation where someone gets off because they weren't using a cell phone when they crashed, but rather were fiddling with a coffee cup and then the next cell phone case gets tossed on the ground that the definition of 'distraction causing carelessness' is way to vague and untenable.

                              BTW... Love your "stats"!
                              Last edited by TurfToe; 11-09-2008, 06:07 PM.
                              Turf Toe:
                              - "...turf toe is a common malady that is more of a nuisance than a serious injury."
                              - "Turf toe can often progress into a chronic problem..."
                              - "A mild instance of turf toe (grade 1) can be merely aggravating while a serious case (grade 3) can be debilitating."

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