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    Negative billing

    The lawn weed/fertilization service I use has a policy whereby if you don't specifically cancel the service before they come out in the spring, they just come out in spring and apply fertilizer. You have to call them to cancel or they assume you're still on board.

    I contend that I don't have to call to cancel. Shaw the cable company tried this "negative billing" a few years ago and got into hot water. They sent letters to customers saying that they will add extra channels to your package unless you specifically tell them othewise. Many people ignored the letter, got the channels and complained to the province (Alberta). Shaw had their hands slapped. The gov't said they couldn't do this.

    I contend that negative billing is not legal. I asked the lady to fax me a contract that I signed that specifies that I must call to cancel unwanted service. She then faxes me a couple of pages (a bill and a page that outlines my service package). Nothing with my signature and nothing resembling a contract.

    Although I was very clear that I wanted to see what I signed that obligates me, she doesn't listen. On the phone, three times I said, "I didn't order your service this year." She just repeats her same old same old all over again, ignoring what I said or not hearing me.

    I very specifically asked to see the contract that I signed and she faxes me this crap that has nothing to do with my request, and nothing that has my signature.

    Any advice? Anyone experience this? Opinions on the legitimatacy of my compliant. Give me your honest opinion. I can take it.

    #2
    Re: Negative billing

    Any advice? Anyone experience this? Opinions on the legitimatacy of my compliant. Give me your honest opinion. I can take it.
    Its cheaper to pay the bill than to fight it.
    I told those f***s down at the league office a thousand times that I don't roll on Shabbos!

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      #3
      Re: Negative billing

      There is a new law in Ontario that has banned negative billing. So if the company operates all over Canada including Ontario they can not do that any where in Canada.

      Tell them to take a hike. The only way these people are going to learn is if people stop taking this crap. What is the name of this company, they deserve the bad image.

      Tell her NO means NO.
      If it's not Boeing I'm not going.

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        #4
        Re: Negative billing

        Originally posted by lloyd
        Its cheaper to pay the bill than to fight it.
        bzzzzzz, wrong answer....just like photo radar, they expect people to take the lazy way out and just pay the bill.

        Continue to phone the company and talk to someone who is actually in charge, let them know that you are under no legal obligation and will not pay for services you are not contractually obligated to pay. I expect they will threaten to take you to a collection service in which case you may remind them that their practice is unlawful and will be brought to court if they file with a collection agency (this is also the case with any ticket incurred at an impark facility FYI). DO NOT PAY! They don't want the hassle of going to court either, and they have no power to get their recompense.

        * other useful threats to use back at them:
        - you will call troubleshooters (bad publicity)
        - a call to your local MLA (possible legal rammifications)
        - a call to the better buisness bureau (bad standing with customers)
        Before you insult a man, walk a mile in his shoes. That way, when you insult him, you'll be a mile away, and have his shoes.

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          #5
          Re: Negative billing

          Just get to somebody past the lady. Most of the time the people who answer the phone are idiots. Get a manager and it'll probably all go away.
          I officially retract my vote for DDS as Prime Minister. He's clearly incompetent.

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            #6
            Re: Negative billing

            This is something that is DEFINATELY covered by the Fair Trading Act of Alberta and is ILLEGAL.

            This is from a PDF "what's new" tip sheet: http://www3.gov.ab.ca/gs/pdf/whatsnew.pdf

            Negative option sales

            Companies cannot require consumers to pay for unordered goods or services unless the
            consumer agrees in writing to pay. If the consumer does not agree, the consumer does
            not have to pay. It is an offence to use negative option to sell goods or services. For more information, contact Alberta Government Services.


            The contact is:

            Alberta Government Services
            Consumer Information Centre
            Phone: Edmonton (780) 427-4088
            Toll free in Alberta 1-877-427-4088
            www.gov.ab.ca/gs


            LOL...just thank me later!

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              #7
              Re: Negative billing

              Nicely done, Muley
              I thought I wanted a career; turns out I just wanted paychecks.

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