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    Pluto loses status as a planet

    Looks like the debate is over - Pluto has been given a box and told to clean up its desk and get out of the solar system.

    From the Beeb http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/5282440.stm

    Astronomers meeting in the Czech capital have voted to strip Pluto of its status as a planet.

    About 2,500 experts were in Prague for the International Astronomical Union's (IAU) general assembly.

    The scientists rejected a proposal that would have retained Pluto as a planet and brought three other objects into the cosmic club.

    Pluto has been considered a planet since its discovery in 1930 by the American Clyde Tombaugh.

    The ninth planet will now effectively be airbrushed out of school and university textbooks.

    The astronomers at the IAU meeting voted by raising their yellow ballot papers for a count.

    "The eight planets are Mercury, Earth, Venus, Mars, Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus and Neptune," said the IAU resolution, which was passed following a week of stormy debate.

    The IAU's initial proposal to raise the number of planets in the Solar System to 12, adding the asteroid Ceres, Pluto's "moon" Charon and the distant object known as 2003 UB313, met with opposition.

    Robin Catchpole, of the Institute of Astronomy in Cambridge, UK, told the BBC News website: "My own personal opinion was to leave things as they were; I met Clyde Tombaugh and thought how nice it was to shake hands with someone who had discovered a planet.

    "But since the IAU brought out the proposal for new planets I had been against it - it was going to be very confusing. The best of the alternatives was to leave the major planets as they are and then demote Pluto. So I think this is a far superior situation."

    Louis Friedman, executive director of the Planetary Society in California commented: "The classification doesn't matter. Pluto - and all Solar System objects - are mysterious and exciting new worlds that need to be explored and better understood."

    Dwarf planet

    Pluto's status has been contested for many years as it is further away and considerably smaller than the eight other planets in our Solar System.

    Its orbit around the Sun is also highly inclined to the plane of the big planets in the Solar System.

    In addition, since the early 1990s, astronomers have found several objects of comparable size to Pluto in an outer region of the Solar System called the Kuiper Belt.

    Some astronomers have long argued that Pluto belongs with this population of small, icy "dwarf planets", not with the objects we call planets.

    Allowances were once made for Pluto on account of its size. At just 2,360km (1,467 miles) across, Pluto is smaller even than some moons in the Solar System. But until recently, it was still the biggest known object in the Kuiper Belt.

    That changed with the discovery of 2003 UB313 by Professor Mike Brown and colleagues at the California Institute of Technology (Caltech). After being measured with the Hubble Space Telescope, it was shown to be some 3,000km (1,864 miles) in diameter, making it larger than Pluto.

    Named after the god of the underworld in Roman mythology, Pluto orbits the Sun at an average distance of 5.9 billion kilometres (3.7 billion miles) taking 247.9 Earth years to complete a single circuit of the Sun.

    An unmanned US spacecraft, New Horizons, is due to fly by Pluto and the Kuiper Belt in 2015.

    Last Updated: Thursday, 24 August 2006, 13:34 GMT 14:34 UK
    Last edited by Steve Vale; 08-24-2006, 09:24 AM. Reason: formatting
    There he goes. One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die.

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    aww no love for pluto. but prolly lots of love for Uranus

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      #3
      Re: Pluto loses status as a planet

      Yeah, this has been debated for years...just a few weeks ago, in fact, they were talking about the solar system having 12 planets with Pluto's Moon, Xena and some asteroid between Mars and Jupiter also getting planet status.

      edit: The asteroid is Ceres.
      Last edited by Angelus; 08-24-2006, 09:25 AM.
      "No one entertains the thought that maybe God does not believe in you." - Bo Burnham

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        #4
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        Gordie: Mickey is a mouse, Donald is a duck, Pluto is a dog. What's Goofy...?
        Teddy: He's a dog, he's definitely a dog...
        Chris: He can't be a dog, he wears a hat and drives a car...
        Vern: Yeah, that is weird. What the hell is Goofy?

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          #5
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          If you want to learn about something really cool, google Sedna.

          "No one entertains the thought that maybe God does not believe in you." - Bo Burnham

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            Also, if you want an idea as to just how miniscule we all are...and just how big the freaking universe is, check out this site:
            http://www.rense.com/general72/size.htm
            "No one entertains the thought that maybe God does not believe in you." - Bo Burnham

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              Re: Pluto loses status as a planet

              What the hell is Antares and when did they find it? Just a bigger sun?

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                Re: Pluto loses status as a planet

                Originally posted by Angelus
                Also, if you want an idea as to just how miniscule we all are...and just how big the freaking universe is, check out this site:
                http://www.rense.com/general72/size.htm
                And to top that - the largest star that astronomers know about (VV Cephei) is more than 3 times the size than Antares!
                There he goes. One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die.

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                  Originally posted by esks4life
                  What the hell is Antares and when did they find it? Just a bigger sun?
                  Yep, those are all stars/suns (same thing) in different solar systems. Antares is the biggest one they've found thus far.

                  edit: Apparently it's not the biggest? Man, you could spend hours on wikipedia with this stuff...I love it.
                  "No one entertains the thought that maybe God does not believe in you." - Bo Burnham

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                    #10
                    Re: Pluto loses status as a planet

                    Those are all stars my friend.

                    Just like Selena was before her tragic death.

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                      Re: Pluto loses status as a planet

                      Originally posted by Steve Vale
                      And to top that - the largest star that astronomers know about (VV Cephei) is more than 3 times the size than Antares!
                      Didn't know that. Cool!
                      "No one entertains the thought that maybe God does not believe in you." - Bo Burnham

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                        #12
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                        Being the amatuer astronomer that I am, I 100% agree that Pluto should not be classified as a planet. Jupiter and Saturn both have Moons bigger than Pluto. Funny thing is that Pluto itself has a satellite, Charon.

                        If we were to classify Pluto as a Planet, then there are many asteroids and objects in the Kuiper belt that would also have to be classified as planets.

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                          #13
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                          Originally posted by esks4life
                          What the hell is Antares and when did they find it? Just a bigger sun?
                          It's in the constellation Scorpio - and they've known about it since man first looked at the evening skies...

                          Info from answers.com


                          Scorpii, a cool supergiant star of spectral type M1Ib, whose red color stands out in the midsummer sky. With an effective temperature of approximately 6000°F (3600 K), Antares resembles Betelgeuse, the brightest of the red supergiants, and would fill the solar system beyond the orbit of Mars if it replaced the Sun. Antares is only about 100 parsecs (325 light-years) from the Sun, and its angular diameter of about 0.045 arc-second has been measured by interferometric and lunar occultation methods. Red supergiants of this type originate as stars with mass at least 20 times that of the Sun. Such stars quickly evolve through successive stages of thermonuclear fusion. Eventually, the supergiant star implodes in a type II supernova explosion. This fate is likely for Antares in less than a million years. Prior to this dramatic event, Antares will have shed up to 50% of its mass through a stellar wind of material blown away from the star into the surrounding interstellar medium. See also Betelgeuse; Scorpius; Spectral type; Stellar evolution; Supergiant star; Supernova.

                          Antares is a member of an association of young and primarily hot stars, and is gravitationally bound in a binary star system with a hot blue star of spectral type B3V. The two stars orbit each other with a period of about 900 years, from which their masses can be determined to be about 15 and 7 times that of the Sun for the red and blue components respectively. The interaction of the strong wind of matter from the supergiant with the radiation from the less massive, hot companion produces an unusual nebulosity surrounding the hot star.
                          There he goes. One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die.

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                            #14
                            Re: Pluto loses status as a planet

                            Originally posted by Steve Vale
                            And to top that - the largest star that astronomers know about (VV Cephei) is more than 3 times the size than Antares!
                            VV Cephei is an eclipsing binary star system located in the constellation Cepheus. It contains a red supergiant which fills its Roche lobe when closest to its companion blue star, which appears to be on the main sequence; matter flows from the supergiant onto the blue companion. VV Cephei A, the supergiant, is the largest star known. It is of spectral type M2 and is about 1140 times the Sun's diameter. If it replaced the Sun in our solar system, it would extend to the orbit of Saturn. It is 315,000 times as luminous as the Sun.
                            VV Cephei B, the blue main sequence star, is separated from the larger star by a distance of 16 - 25 AU; it is a B0 star about 10 times the Sun's diameter and about 100,000 times its luminosity. The orbital period of the system is 7430 days (20.3 years). The eclipse lasts about 1300 days, and the midpoint of the last eclipse was in early January 1998.
                            "No one entertains the thought that maybe God does not believe in you." - Bo Burnham

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                              #15
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                              Originally posted by Deathsdoorstep
                              Being the amatuer astronomer that I am, I 100% agree that Pluto should not be classified as a planet. Jupiter and Saturn both have Moons bigger than Pluto. Funny thing is that Pluto itself has a satellite, Charon.

                              If we were to classify Pluto as a Planet, then there are many asteroids and objects in the Kuiper belt that would also have to be classified as planets.
                              Unfortunately, that is the truth. Although pluto's "moon" is pretty much the same size as pluto and are now considered a dual-planet system...I think?
                              "No one entertains the thought that maybe God does not believe in you." - Bo Burnham

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