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    Chopping block
    By TERRY JONES, Edmonton Sun

    Meaningful moves are coming. But you’ll probably have to wait until Wednesday.

    And Richie Hall probably isn’t going to be one of them.

    “We are actively working with our senior management in every area,” said Edmonton Eskimos board chairman Doug Goss Monday, indicating moves will be made in the next 48 hours.

    A series of meetings dealing with short term and long term were being held Monday and will continue Tuesday with more than one move expected to be announced by Wednesday.

    “No one is going to be happy until this is fixed,” said Goss.

    But will the fix include the firing of Richie Hall?

    Or is the head coach going to be asked to be part of the solution even though the failure of his team to play for him at the beginning and end of games is perhaps the biggest part of the problem?

    It looks like the latter.

    Hall appears to be involved in the meetings. And he’ll be making himself available to the media Tuesday to talk about injuries and answer other questions head coaches normally do after a game.

    The problem is that, thanks to Danny Maciocia, the fix is so deep that it isn’t just a simple solution of firing Hall like the Eskimos fired Pete Ketella in 1983 after losing in Calgary on Labour Day and bringing in Jackie Parker to take over. And there is no Jackie Parker to take over.

    It’s looking like whether they think Hall deserves to remain head coach or not, they’re going to have no choice but to keep him in the job.

    This team is so screwed up they may have Hall, who is definitely not a quitter (unlike a significant number of his players) to somehow be part of the solution beyond simply walking the plank for the players he’s failed to inspire to show up to play for him or have the character not to capsize completely in fourth quarters.

    Five members of the assistant coaching staff are Danny Maciocia hires and he’s had a heavy influence on choosing others. They may be the bigger problem than Hall himself.

    Replacing a head coach isn’t an easy solution if you know that whoever you find to come in for the interim has no chance of success with the assistant coaching staff he’ll be working with or the lot of losers with hearts the size of peas who Maciocia picked as players, talented though many of them may be.

    Maciocia is now being exposed as a con man who had people inside and close to the organization fooled but who didn’t fool the fans. Two weeks after firing him, the reality has hit that his dismissal didn’t cure anything short term. The only benefit is that it has totally exposed more of the mistakes he made.


    It’s what happens next that will have far more impact.

    You’d figure they’d be more likely to fire Kevin Strasser, Jeff Bleamer, Noel Thorpe, Dan Kepley, Mike Walker, Terry Eisler, Stacey Hairston, Jason Tucker or Rob Ralph than make one of them head coach to replace Hall.

    Head coaches have been fired during seasons before but has anybody tried to replace two-thirds of a coaching staff? Then again, do you really need all nine of them to do the job they’re doing?

    While Strasser has probably replaced Maciocia as Public Enemy No. 1 in Edmonton for Eskimo fans, the guy who deserves to be gonged first is Bleamer. And that one, I’m pretty sure, will happen, regardless of how many other heads roll.

    The offensive line is in such a state of disarray that there is no justification for this guy to stay another day. And Strasser can share the same cab to the airport with him with the play calling and offensive game plans he’s provided since running his record to 5-12 after Maciocia put him in place to take over from a then 5-4 Rick Worman on Labour Day.

    But the problem is also very much the players.

    There just aren’t enough Eskimos on this team. And one of the so-called stars, Maciocia’s big free-agent signing of last year, middle linebacker Maurice Lloyd, is a high-profile part of the problem within this group.

    If you’re going to make an example of somebody in uniform, he’d be the guy I’d pick quick.

    This team has major leadership issues and Lloyd has clearly established himself as a cancer within this club.

    The Eskimos can’t continue to look the other way with him. But Hall was his old coach in Saskatchewan.

    If it works out that the Eskimos have no choice but to keep Hall as head coach until the end of the season, does that mean Lloyd stays, too?

    It’s a good thing this is a bye week situation because it’s giving the Eskimos time to take a long, hard look at coaches and players, short term and long term.

    And it has to be quite clear to everybody now that there’s no quick fix here on a year when Edmonton plays host to the Grey Cup.

    Forget Grey Cup or bust. It’s bust.
    Finally somebody in the press calls Maciocia out, and admits we all knew the guy was useless.

    I have to wonder, though. Why did it take this long ?



    http://www.edmontonsun.com/sports/co.../15043731.html
    Last edited by φHeãdStøήёš; 08-16-2010, 09:37 PM. Reason: forgot the link

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    Re: Terry Jones comments

    I tHinK this HAS been POSTED somewhere ALREADY.

    So you think RICHIE should be FIRED? Cause IMSAYIN he shouldn't.
    "No one entertains the thought that maybe God does not believe in you." - Bo Burnham

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      #3
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      Why? Because Macocia is already gone that is why and also because Jones is not a beat reporter. A lot of this pain could have been avoided if smart football people were in charge 3-4 years ago and saw through the DM nonsense at that time. Hey there weer a lot of people sticking up for DM for years or at the very lease not at all willing to come out vocally and tell it like it is.

      I wonder why that beacon of football wisdom MacKinnon has not been lambasting R.L. and the board for firing DM in one of his columns he has been strangely silent on the subject.

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        Originally posted by Angelus View Post
        I tHinK this HAS been POSTED somewhere ALREADY.

        So you think RICHIE should be FIRED? Cause IMSAYIN he shouldn't.
        I'm not sure what the hell you're talking about. I clearly bolded, and commented on the part that relates to Maciocia. If it was posted somewhere else, I apologize. Considering the Sun shows the story as being updated at 8:10 PM. I didn't see any thread titles relating to it, I posted it.

        Just because I think the guy has a great video on youtube. That does not mean I'm him. That's what IMSAYIN.

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          #5
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          Angelus, just because something is posted in the "news" on the home page, it doesn't show up in the forums. (Also, "news" posts still can't be linked to from "unread posts", it still shows an error.) I saw this thread, but hadn't seen your post, so (1) wondered what the hell you were talking about, and (2) even if it was an obvious double post, it happens sometimes to all of us, no need to be obnoxious about it. You know what IMSAYIN?

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            #6
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            I posted the news story after this thread. That's not what I was talking about...

            What error do you get? For whatever reason, I do not get any error.
            "No one entertains the thought that maybe God does not believe in you." - Bo Burnham

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              #7
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              TJ is one of the few Edmonton media who has the stones to tell it like it is!!

              Not sure what he's getting at re the Mo LLoyd comment being a cancer on the team. Perhaps one of the posters who is clos(er) to the team might have some inside dirt on this aspect.

              Also agree that Bleamer needs to go for 2 reasons:

              1. His O-Line schemes and overall performance has been brutal and
              2. By firing an assistant coach they send a message to all concerned that it's just not the players who are accountable for the mess that this season has become.

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                #8
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                I've always thought mo had a fire in him, maybe there is something more??

                As I've already stated, I'm not adverse to sitting or trading anyone.. If mo is a cancer in the room, he needs to go..

                Thing that sticks in my craw, is the fact that dm and board felt we needed sask guys to turn this boat around,

                Never been a Morgan fan, and I was against hall as hc, now I finally think mo shows a little of that Eskimo way and it turns out he maybe a problem player??

                Oh man.. The soap opera that is the Edmonton Eskimos continues to grow on a daily basis

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                  #9
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                  Originally posted by writfiler View Post
                  TJ is one of the few Edmonton media who has the stones to tell it like it is!!
                  .
                  To bad he didn't have the stones to tell it like is while Macocia was still employed by the team.

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                    #10
                    Re: Terry Jones comments

                    Lloyd celebrated his hit on Arjiel Franklin's TD grab. Mo hit the guy hard & yet Franklin held on to the football scoring 6 points & the guy is celebrating? You just don't do that kind of stuff.
                    Men, we got them right where we want them.

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                      #11
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                      OK, so Mo Lloyd celebrating a hard hit on Franklin's touchdown catch made no sense -- it was six points for the Stamps. Where does Terry Jones get that Mo Lloyd is a cancer in the room??? He is one of the players with fire that the team so badly needs...

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                        Originally posted by Angelus View Post
                        I tHinK this HAS been POSTED somewhere ALREADY.

                        So you think RICHIE should be FIRED? Cause IMSAYIN he shouldn't.
                        I don't know about anyone else, but I didn't have permission to view your thread. I could view this one fine.

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                          #13
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                          I thought mo's mentality was what we needed..
                          If I'm wrong I'll stand corrected...

                          Didn't see mo celebrate the hit, but then again I was ranting and raving about the td!

                          Just not got the heart to watch the game back again yet

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                            #14
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                            Maybe Mo is all about himself instead of about the team. That might explain the celebration of a hit on a TD catch. Another Nik Lewis type maybe? In any case it is nice to see a journalist finally start to mention the things the fans have known for years.
                            Last edited by Eskie54; 08-17-2010, 06:48 AM. Reason: add comment

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                              #15
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                              Originally posted by Rayminator View Post
                              I don't know about anyone else, but I didn't have permission to view your thread. I could view this one fine.
                              I can read it if I view it from the link on the homepage, but I usually just click on the unread posts link in the top corner, and from there I don't have permission to view it.

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