Clock issues

[Nanookster]

I haven't seen this mentioned in any threads (except in my buried one).

When the refs reset the time clock they failed to reset the 20 second clock. Once the play was whistled in the clock counted down from 12 seconds. Fleming tried to point it out but the refs ignored him. Thus when he took the time count violation penalty at the end of the game, he in fact only ran 12 second off the clock instead of 20. Therefore the Riders gained 8 seconds.

Instead fo the clock showing 3 seconds, it showed 11 seconds.

Crandall was able to throw two bombs in the last 11 seconds. The second bomb resulted in the most bogus call of the year, the PI to give the Riders a chance.

If he only had 3 seconds, he would not have even had time to attemp that second pass that gave the REFS the chance to win the game.

[Beerfish]

Re: Clock issues

The refs have been so totally clueless this year it's a joke. And this is for alot of games certainly not just Eskimo games. They are also becoming NHL refs in pulling out the 'even it up' calls if they blow one bad enough. After Brady got that very lame roughing the Qb call in the 1st half I said to myself. (The Riders are going to get called for holding within a play or so.) Lo and behold the very next play they get called for a hold.

[5goridersgo5]

Re: Clock issues

I haven't seen this mentioned in any threads (except in my buried one).

When the refs reset the time clock they failed to reset the 20 second clock. Once the play was whistled in the clock counted down from 12 seconds. Fleming tried to point it out but the refs ignored him. Thus when he took the time count violation penalty at the end of the game, he in fact only ran 12 second off the clock instead of 20. Therefore the Riders gained 8 seconds.

Instead fo the clock showing 3 seconds, it showed 11 seconds.

Crandall was able to throw two bombs in the last 11 seconds. The second bomb resulted in the most bogus call of the year, the PI to give the Riders a chance.

If he only had 3 seconds, he would not have even had time to attemp that second pass that gave the REFS the chance to win the game.

Actually, the refs didn't reset the game clock either. At the end of the previous play, there were 48 seconds. The ref then blew in the next play and both the play clock and the game clock both ran. At 40 seconds, the referee stopped both the play and game clock (I have no idea why to be honest with you). This left 11 seconds on the play clock. When the referee blew the play back in, he did not reset the play clock or the game clock. Yes, Edmonton was left with only 11 seconds on the play clock, but if the 20 second clock would have been reset with resetting the time clock back to 48 seconds, Edmonton would have been allowed to run off approximately 28 or 29 seconds off of the game clock between plays.

It did look stupid on the refs part though to not explain it, it would have taken him 10 seconds of his life to do this and it would have cleared up the issue.

Regarding some of the "other" mysterious calls, I guess George Black will have to explain them in his column this week.

[Muley69]

Re: Clock issues

No...as surprising as it may seem, the play / game clock thing was correct, from my vantage point amongst all the drunkards.



But why did the play / game clock just stop, part way through? THAT was what I couldn't figure out.

[Touchdown Vaughn]

Re: Clock issues

I think the game clock was run down to 11 and the game clock from 49 to 40. Then the Esks sp. teams came on the field, so the ref stopped the clock to allow for the sub. Then they reset the game clock to 48, then got it back to 40. The play clock was at 11. I don't think any error was made.

[Angelus]

Re: Clock issues

There was no problem with the way they did it. It was weird yes...but no mistake was made. The correct amount of time was run off.

[Nanookster]

Re: Clock issues

Nope, from the CFL rulebook article F:

The Referee shall allow Team A 20 seconds in which to put the ball into play. If the stadium countdown clock is not in operation the Referee shall be the sole judge as to when the time count shall commence, after allowing both teams reasonable time in which to line up after the preceding play.

I think the clock had 47 seconds on it. It was running prior to the play being blown in. The ref asked for the clock to be reset.

Once he stopped the clock from running he is suppose to reset the 20 second clock. They always PA for the 20 second clock to be reset.

It isn't 20 seconds of broken time.

[Angelus]

Re: Clock issues

Look, the point here is that from the time the game clock started to the time the Esks took the time count violation penalty, 20 seconds was gone. Therefore, there was no problem with it.

[GREYx14]

Re: Clock issues

Another clock issue that annoys me is the growing use of dubious injuries to get extra time-outs. Maciocia admitted to using this ploy early in the season and CFL officials don't seem to care. As a fan I do because it slows down the game too much.

[5goridersgo5]

Re: Clock issues

Nope, from the CFL rulebook article F:

The Referee shall allow Team A 20 seconds in which to put the ball into play. If the stadium countdown clock is not in operation the Referee shall be the sole judge as to when the time count shall commence, after allowing both teams reasonable time in which to line up after the preceding play.

I think the clock had 47 seconds on it. It was running prior to the play being blown in. The ref asked for the clock to be reset.

Once he stopped the clock from running he is suppose to reset the 20 second clock. They always PA for the 20 second clock to be reset.

It isn't 20 seconds of broken time.

The mistake was the referee blew in the play too early to not allow for substitituions. Once he saw the substitutions start, he stopped BOTH the game clock and the 20 second clock to allow both teams to make substitutions. No one got screwed out of or got extra time because of that.

Also, the referee does not address the PA announcer to reset the 20 second clock, only the game clock. If the 20 second clock is to be reset, he makes a motion of moving his right hand across his left arm.