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    #46
    Re: Lies From Turco Now

    Originally posted by Spectacle
    Smyth was there before the goal went in, watch it again.

    I'm not saying it shouldn't have counted had it been a goal because of Smyth, I was just pointing out how hypocritical a large amount of Oiler fans are. Your Smyth can crash and bang at the goaltenders all he wants, because he's "Captain Canada". But nope... go near the crybaby Roloson and all hell breaks loose.



    Regardless of what you think of Smyth, the goal in the first period shouldn't have counted due to goaltender interference on "crybaby" Roloson, and there's no way in my mind that Smyth had interfered with Turco on the disallowed goal...which you originally had insinuated by claiming that Smyth had "dove" into Turco.


    I'm done now...you can have the last word.
    Go Eskies!

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      #47
      Re: Lies From Turco Now

      Originally posted by Spectacle
      Smyth was there before the goal went in, watch it again.

      I'm not saying it shouldn't have counted had it been a goal because of Smyth, I was just pointing out how hypocritical a large amount of Oiler fans are. Your Smyth can crash and bang at the goaltenders all he wants, because he's "Captain Canada". But nope... go near the crybaby Roloson and all hell breaks loose.
      Smyth scored the goal. How could he be doing both things at the same time?
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        #48
        Re: Lies From Turco Now

        Wow, can't wait till the next time we play the Stars so everyone can get their gotch in a knot.

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          #49
          Re: Lies From Turco Now

          Originally posted by Ol' Jase
          Smyth scored the goal. How could he be doing both things at the same time?

          He had to be there then, obviously.

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            #50
            Re: Lies From Turco Now

            Originally posted by Spectacle
            He had to be there then, obviously.
            C'mon now Spectacle, you're better than that.

            There's a big difference between following the puck into the crease and being there before the puck is. Smyth rarely ever touches the goalie within the crease when the puck's not already there.. that's why he gets so few penalties, because most of what he does is within the rules. What Lindros did doesn't comapre to what Smyth does, two very different actions that have very different rules applied to them.

            edit: fixed a typo
            Last edited by PDO; 11-04-2006, 09:39 PM.
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              #51
              Re: Lies From Turco Now

              Originally posted by PDO
              C'mon now Spectacle, you're better than that.

              There's a big difference between following the puck into the crease and being there before the puck is. Smyth rarely ever touches the goalie within the crease when the puck's already there.. that's why he gets so few penalties, because most of what he does is within the rules. What Lindros did doesn't comapre to what Smyth does, two very different actions that have very different rules applied to them.



              Go Eskies!

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                #52
                Re: Lies From Turco Now

                Originally posted by PDO
                C'mon now Spectacle, you're better than that.

                There's a big difference between following the puck into the crease and being there before the puck is. Smyth rarely ever touches the goalie within the crease when the puck's already there.. that's why he gets so few penalties, because most of what he does is within the rules. What Lindros did doesn't comapre to what Smyth does, two very different actions that have very different rules applied to them.
                Guess she put on her other green and gold glasses since the Esks didn't make the playoffs
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                  #53
                  Re: Lies From Turco Now

                  Originally posted by Spectacle
                  The Oilers were the ones that didn't capitalise on a 2-man advantage, and people want to blame the refs for the Stars 'getting lucky'???

                  The Lindros thing was borderline, IMO. You can see him move his left leg out of Roloson.

                  That was a lovely dive into Turco by Smyth on that last non-goal, by the way.
                  If the penalties are committed, they oughta be called. On both sides. Sure, the Oil didn't make use of the 2-man - but those two penalties IMO were correct calls. It's not like the refs GAVE that advantage to the Oilers - the Stars took it away from themselves. I didn't see the Winchester play, but I'll take your word for it. And the two blown calls - yeah, Dallas DID get lucky with regards to those two calls. If the right calls are made, it's 3-2 Oilers (notwithstanding any other blown calls that should've been called).

                  The key thing on the Lindros play is that he skates right through the crease while Roloson is completely inside the blue ice, and the puck is not there. I don't know whether his left skate clipped Roloson's leg (looks like it on the TSN highlights, but I don't know for sure), but he DEFINITELY ran into the top of Roloson's stick, knocking it out of his hands (and therefore moving his blocker hand) - intentional or not, that's interfering with the goalie.

                  Originally posted by NHL Rulebook
                  Rule 69.3 = Contact Within The Goal Crease
                  "If an attacking player initiates contact with a goalkeeper, whether incidental or otherwise, while the goalkeeper is in his goal crease, and a goal is scored, the goal will be disallowed."
                  On the replay the Oilers have and that TSN has, Smyth is completely outside the blue ice - it didn't look like he touched Turco before the puck went in, if he did while going for the puck, fine - that's incidental contact, which is defined in the rule book as allowed while in the act of going for the puck, which Smyth certainly was (evidenced by the fact that he scored).

                  Originally posted by NHL Rulebook
                  Rule 69.6 = Rebounds and Loose Pucks
                  "In a rebound situation, or where a goalkeeper and attacking player(s) are simultaneously attempting to play a loose puck, whether inside or outside the crease, incidental contact with the goalkeeper will be permitted, and any goal that is scored as a result thereof will be allowed."
                  So your last comment has absolutely ZERO legs to stand on, even if Smyth did touch Turco, which I'm not sure he did. He wasn't even near the crease before the shot from Stoll, and everything after that pertains to the rule above.
                  Last edited by gizmo fan 2; 11-04-2006, 09:38 PM.
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                    #54
                    Re: Lies From Turco Now

                    Enough already. The Oilers have moved on. So should you.

                    There are 69 games left on their season or whatever amount. They will make it up somewhere down there road.

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                      #55
                      Re: Lies From Turco Now

                      Dear EEFC - you've left us to parse words from one of our dispised SC playoff rivals due to your absence in the GC playoffs. Don't you dare do that again!
                      There he goes. One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die.

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                        #56
                        Re: Lies From Turco Now

                        Originally posted by Jtuck09
                        Enough already. The Oilers have moved on. So should you.
                        If it bothers you so much, you don't have to read the thread
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                          #57
                          Re: Lies From Turco Now

                          go near the crybaby Roloson and all hell breaks loose.
                          I've seen your hero Turco whine just as much in the past.

                          You honestly think Roli was overreacting?!?!?
                          Long live the B.O.N.E.

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                            #58
                            Re: Lies From Turco Now

                            Originally posted by Spectacle
                            He had to be there then, obviously.
                            Smyth was playing the puck!!!
                            Long live the B.O.N.E.

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                              #59
                              Re: Lies From Turco Now

                              Thats funny to me, as I watched Winchester get away with a holding the stick call right in front of me.
                              Riiight. Because of that missed call, Edmonton scored.

                              How could I forget!!

                              Long live the B.O.N.E.

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                                #60
                                Re: Lies From Turco Now

                                Originally posted by Spectacle
                                Does it make you feel good to jump all over a guy that maybe is just trying to "save face"??


                                Save face? He'd save face if admitted to being beat. Modano was man enough to admit the Oilers were screwed over.
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