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    #16
    Re: Damn that idiot MacT for motivating Penner!

    The thing I don't like about motivating players by benching them is that it is a very short lived resurgence. Benching him and ripping him in the media isn't going to make Penner a good player for 5+ years....it just causes him to be motivated for a few games.

    If you want a player to reach their potential on the nightly basis...coach them, place them correctly within the scheme, and allow those players to play to strengths while minimizing their weaknesses. Penner will have a couple good games then start playing like he has for the last year and a bit.

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      #17
      Re: Damn that idiot MacT for motivating Penner!

      He said that he and MacT talked for a long time this morning. MacT got his attention. Nobody picks up "schemes" and learns to "play to their strengths" when they're not paying attention.
      I officially retract my vote for DDS as Prime Minister. He's clearly incompetent.

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        #18
        Re: Damn that idiot MacT for motivating Penner!

        If anything Penner was made an example. My favorite whipping boy Horcoff likely figured out he was next and has picked up his play as well.

        With today's million $ salaries, coaches have very little leverage on the players versus say the 1950's where the players had to earn their contracts in training camp every year. Benching a player today can backfire as they can sit in the stands and still get paid. Fortunately, I believe most would rather play and thus return with renewed vigor like Penner displayed tonight.

        The real leverage rests with the veterans on the team. Souray looked pissed off tonight more than normal. A few choice words from him will go a long way to getting a teammate to extract their head from their a$$.

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          #19
          Re: Damn that idiot MacT for motivating Penner!

          Originally posted by Wilkie12 View Post
          If anything Penner was made an example. My favorite whipping boy Horcoff likely figured out he was next and has picked up his play as well.

          With today's million $ salaries, coaches have very little leverage on the players versus say the 1950's where the players had to earn their contracts in training camp every year. Benching a player today can backfire as they can sit in the stands and still get paid. Fortunately, I believe most would rather play and thus return with renewed vigor like Penner displayed tonight.

          The real leverage rests with the veterans on the team. Souray looked pissed off tonight more than normal. A few choice words from him will go a long way to getting a teammate to extract their head from their a$$.
          Except Horcoff's been playing great for a stretch of games now and just got some bounces tonight .

          Maybe someone should get pissed off at Souray and tell him to stop taking stupid penalties
          "This year, we did what we were supposed to do. We fought as a team. We fought as a team. And the fact is, we gotta go back and go to work, to make sure we finish this next time. That's all we gotta do. This right here makes us stronger. Let's understand who we are as a team. Let's understand this right here makes us stronger." - Ray Lewis, January, 2012.

          Superbowl Champs 2013.

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            #20
            Re: Damn that idiot MacT for motivating Penner!

            Originally posted by Numberz View Post
            The thing I don't like about motivating players by benching them is that it is a very short lived resurgence. Benching him and ripping him in the media isn't going to make Penner a good player for 5+ years....it just causes him to be motivated for a few games.

            If you want a player to reach their potential on the nightly basis...coach them, place them correctly within the scheme, and allow those players to play to strengths while minimizing their weaknesses. Penner will have a couple good games then start playing like he has for the last year and a bit.
            Sometimes.

            It works long-term as well though. Obviously it's not a well you can go to over and over, but if used properly it can help a guy quite a bit.

            Want proof?

            Look at Nilsson now, look at where he was a year ago. The level of compete in his game doesn't begin to compare.
            "This year, we did what we were supposed to do. We fought as a team. We fought as a team. And the fact is, we gotta go back and go to work, to make sure we finish this next time. That's all we gotta do. This right here makes us stronger. Let's understand who we are as a team. Let's understand this right here makes us stronger." - Ray Lewis, January, 2012.

            Superbowl Champs 2013.

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              #21
              Re: Damn that idiot MacT for motivating Penner!

              A good thrashing of another team is always great. But it will take more than one game for me to be convinced that Craig MacTavish is now all of a sudden a good coach. I've had my hopes drummed up before only to be dashed. Not fooled this time.

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                #22
                Re: Damn that idiot MacT for motivating Penner!

                The Oilers got...what...19 shots and score 7 times? This team didn't register a SHOT IN OVER 20 MINUTES tonight...

                Uh...so simply due to the fact that Pascal Leclaire sucked ass, Mac T is a genius, Horcoff is a scoring god, and Penner will have a return to glory?





                Honestly, how is the air up there for some of you?

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                  #23
                  Re: Damn that idiot MacT for motivating Penner!

                  When the Oilers win, MacT is a god, when they lose, he should be fired....that's just the way it is in Edmonton.

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                    #24
                    Re: Damn that idiot MacT for motivating Penner!

                    Originally posted by Muley69 View Post
                    The Oilers got...what...15 shots and scored 7 times?

                    Uh...so simply due to the fact that Pascal Leclaire sucked ass, Mac T is a genius, Horcoff is a scoring god, and Penner will have a return to glory?





                    Honestly, how is the air up there for some of you?
                    Makes about as much sense as completely freaking out after a loss where you can't buy a goal despite dominating the game and lose in a SO despite dominating the game, eh?
                    "This year, we did what we were supposed to do. We fought as a team. We fought as a team. And the fact is, we gotta go back and go to work, to make sure we finish this next time. That's all we gotta do. This right here makes us stronger. Let's understand who we are as a team. Let's understand this right here makes us stronger." - Ray Lewis, January, 2012.

                    Superbowl Champs 2013.

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                      #25
                      Re: Damn that idiot MacT for motivating Penner!

                      Originally posted by PDO View Post
                      Makes about as much sense as completely freaking out after a loss where you can't buy a goal despite dominating the game and lose in a SO despite dominating the game, eh?



                      Good thing I did not "freak out" after one loss.

                      Exhibit frustration after pretty much an entire 1/5th of a season completely unimpressing? Yes

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                        #26
                        Re: Damn that idiot MacT for motivating Penner!

                        Not to mention the Oilers seem to have a habit of making some goalies look red hot. 30 shots from the side boards can make any goalie look unbeatable.

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                          #27
                          Re: Damn that idiot MacT for motivating Penner!

                          So when do you adopt that Souray avy I sent you awhile ago full-time?

                          Give the man his do, he's carrying this team even more then Hemmer is right now...
                          Quote from Inquiring Mind:

                          Of course stamphater is sacred... we all worship the ground he walks on.

                          #PizStrong

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                            #28
                            Re: Damn that idiot MacT for motivating Penner!

                            Good to see the goals finally coming a bit.

                            But this is still the second game in a row where we've been outshot by 20+ (39-19, 41-21 @ DET).

                            Our goaltending isn't going to hold out forever. Worrisome.
                            We're cheering Fight Fight Fight On Eskimos...

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                              #29
                              Re: Damn that idiot MacT for motivating Penner!

                              Originally posted by Muley69 View Post
                              Good thing I did not "freak out" after one loss.

                              Exhibit frustration after pretty much an entire 1/5th of a season completely unimpressing? Yes
                              Yeah. One point behind highly touted "Cup contender" Calgary Flames and 2 points out of 4th place after having a round of undeniably ****ty games and likely the worst first quarter schedule in the Western Conference.

                              Pretty unimpressive.

                              I distinctly remember a number of the haters saying that if the Oilers are .500 after 18 games, they'd be pretty optimistic. Looks like they're almost bang on schedule.
                              I officially retract my vote for DDS as Prime Minister. He's clearly incompetent.

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                                #30
                                Re: Damn that idiot MacT for motivating Penner!

                                Originally posted by Deathsdoorstep View Post
                                Not to mention the Oilers seem to have a habit of making some goalies look red hot. 30 shots from the side boards can make any goalie look unbeatable.
                                You mean how they GIVE UP 30 shots from the side boards and make their goalie look red hot?

                                I totally agree.
                                I officially retract my vote for DDS as Prime Minister. He's clearly incompetent.

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