Pacman vs Sugar: All that remains is the fight.

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http://www.fightnewsextra.com/cc/201...acmosley03.htm

For those who were forced to watch the snooze fest that was the most recent UFC ppv, tune into this one.

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Roach, Pacquiao not taking Mosley lightly

Story by Andreas Hale
Photos by Chris Cozzone


Ever since it was announced that Manny Pacquiao would be taking on “Sugar” Shane Mosley, it was a foregone conclusion to many that boxing’s pound for pound king would smash the green-eyed 39-year-old to smithereens. But despite what anyone thinks about Shane Mosley, Manny Pacquiao and Freddie Roach aren’t taking the former three division world champion any lighter than…say…Floyd Mayweather Jr.

But just because they aren’t fighting Mayweather doesn’t mean that there isn’t a silent competition with dispatching of Mosley in a manner that Floyd Mayweather Jr. could not – even though Manny Pacquiao won’t admit to it.

“We’re not focused for the knockout,” Pacquiao said when asked how significant it would be to stop the man who has yet to be stopped in 54 professional fights. “All we do is work hard and if the knockout comes, it comes. We’ve prepared ourselves for fighting 12 rounds.”

As you may know, Manny Pacquiao always plays the nice guy when it comes to the pre-fight hype. He rarely says anything negative about his opponent nor will he predict a knockout. But that’s what Freddie Roach is there for. The man who has guided Pacquiao to devastating stoppages against the likes of Marco Antonio Barrera, Erik Morales, Oscar De La Hoya, Ricky Hatton and Miguel Cotto has no qualms stating what he wants to see happen on Saturday night.

“I think all fights should end in knockouts so I’m looking for a knockout,” Roach said. But if you want him to be more specific as to why, allow him to spell it out for you. “It would be incredible for Manny to be the first one to stop him and just prove to the world how much better he is than that guy that couldn’t stop him (Floyd Mayweather, Jr.).”

Although Mayweather is skirting the proposed superfight, the opportunity to one up Mayweather on his accomplishments has got to be a tantalizing dish that has offered Roach and Pacquaio a sense of satisfaction to this point in their careers. Mayweather scored a 10th round TKO of Ricky Hatton. Pacquaio took him out in two rounds. Mayweather went the distance against Oscar De La Hoya. Pacquiao retired him in 8. Mayweather surgically picked apart Shane Mosley almost exactly one year ago. What Pacquaio does to him remains to be seen.

But here’s an even more interesting statistic: the aforementioned names that Roach trained the Filipino to destroy all received the most savage beating of their lives (with the exception of Cotto) at the hand of Pac Man. Morales and Barrera had never been stopped in their illustrious careers before meeting Pacquiao in the ring. It’s safe to say that if it’s a savage beating you are looking for, look no further than Pacquiao to deliver violence in its mort artistic form.

“Sugar” Shane Mosley definitely has something to be concerned about come Saturday night.

[Beerfish]

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I had totally written Mosley off years ago. The guy keeps surprising though. Sooner or later father time will finally catch up to him though.

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manny will win. should be a good one.

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http://www.fightnewsextra.com/cc/201...acmosley03.htm

For those who were forced to watch the snooze fest that was the most recent UFC ppv, tune into this one.

I briefly considered bucking up and bringing in the Toronto UFC ppv but ended up watching Fight Camp 360°: Pacquiao vs. Mosley on CBS instead. I'm glad I did because the documentary was really fascinating- especially the Pacquiao portion. I'm looking forward to this fight.

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By Graham Houston


The seemingly unstoppable force that is Manny Pacquiao faces a living legend in Sugar Shane Mosley, and the fight at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas on Saturday has captured the imagination. Pacquiao is the wide betting favourite in the welterweight championship bout that will be televised on Showtime PPV, but great fighters sometimes have one last great fight left in them, and it is the possibility that Mosley might be able to reach down within himself and produce a performance for the ages that has in part led to the fight’s appeal.

Then again, there is the sense that in Pacquiao boxing has one of those fighters who come along once in a lifetime. People want to be able see him, to enjoy him while they can before he leaves the sport for a new battle, to fight poverty in his new role as a congressman in the Philippines.

I think it is fair to call Pacquiao a phenomenon. What other fighter in ring history won his first world title in the flyweight division and yet, 12 years later, was looking just as fast but much bigger and stronger as a welterweight champion?
In his last five fights, going back to his unexpected destruction of Oscar De La Hoya, it is as if Pacquiao has moved to a new level and, at 32, he seems to be fighting better than he has ever done.

Now Shane Mosley steps into the ring to try to stop the Filipino typhoon that has been sweeping all before it.
Mosley has never been beaten inside the distance, and he did what Pacquiao was unable to do when he knocked out Antonio Margarito. Fans know that, no matter the result on Saturday, Mosley will come to win, and I fully expect Sugar Shane to offer stubborn resistance. However, Mosley’s form in the past two years — with the obvious exception of the knockout win over Margarito — has been unimpressive, and I believe that Margarito wasn’t at his best physically or mentally, having struggled to lose weight and been distracted by the backstage “loaded handwraps” issue.

Let’s look at Mosley’s other performances in the last two years.

There was the difficult fight with Ricardo Mayorga when Mosley’s last-second KO win disguised what had been a laboured, often tentative performance.

Take away the dramatic second round, and the brutal truth is that Floyd Mayweather Jr. outclassed Mosley. I thought that Mayweather could have stopped Mosley had he really gone after him in the later rounds. Mosley was taking clean shots and he wasn’t reacting too well to them, blinking like a man who steps out of a dim interior into bright sunshine.

Then, in his last fight, Mosley needed a late-rounds rally to secure a draw with the awkwardly clever but overly cautious Sergio Mora.

Mosley, then, has, in his last four fights, given one superb performance but looked like a fading force in the other three bouts.

Pacquiao, meanwhile, has been consistent, hardly losing a round in his last five fights as he rolled over everyone put in front of him: Oscar De La Hoya, Ricky Hatton, Miguel Cotto, Joshua Clottey, Margarito — none of them stood a chance.

Clottey got through to the final bell by staying behind a shell-like defence while Margarito showed incredible guts and toughness — and some referees might have pulled Margarito out of the fight after the 10th round because he had been severely punished and stood no chance of winning.

Mosley might very well be the better one-punch banger in this fight, but he is 39, and I believe he is slowing down. He has a great chin, but he isn’t the slipperiest of fighters. I believe that Mosley will have great difficulties with Pacquiao’s hand speed. I can envisage Pacquiao running off combinations and then sliding around Mosley in sweeping motions.

The way Mosley buckled Mayweather’s legs with a big right hand a year ago showed that Sugar Shane is still dangerous, especially in the early rounds, but I see this developing into the sort of fight in which Mosley is getting hit but can’t land a telling punch on his bundle-of-energy opponent. As the bout reaches the later rounds I think we might see Mosley looking worn down and the worse for wear.

Pacquiao showed sympathy towards the beaten-up Margarito, and he seemed reluctant to keep hitting Cotto: trainer Freddie Roach wants no such Mr. Nice Guy stuff on Saturday. In fact, Roach told me in a phone conversation, the Pacquiao strategy is being geared towards getting Mosley out of the fight inside the distance.

Roach told me that as Mosley went the full 12 rounds with Mayweather it would send out a statement if Pacquiao wins this fight on a stoppage. “He wants everyone to know who the best fighter in the world is,” Roach said — and there would be no better way to do this than by becoming the first to halt Mosley.

Stopping Mosley is a very difficult thing to do, of course. Mosley is not only iron-chinned, he has great boxing knowledge and enormous pride. In many big fights, the only time I have seen Mosley noticeably hurt was when Vernon Forrest knocked him down nine years ago and Mosley grittily endured till the final bell. Pacquiao’s combination of speed and power, though, might be enough to force referee Kenny Bayless’s humane intervention at some point in the last four rounds.

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I briefly considered bucking up and bringing in the Toronto UFC ppv but ended up watching Fight Camp 360°: Pacquiao vs. Mosley on CBS instead. I'm glad I did because the documentary was really fascinating- especially the Pacquiao portion. I'm looking forward to this fight.

Pacquiao's story of where he came from, and what he's become both inside the ring and in life is truly an inspiring one. It's a damn shame that much of today's media are caught up in the sizzle of the UFC when the steak is on Pacman's plate. We are witnessing greatness in fighting not seen since the days of Ali.

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http://www.latimes.com/sports/sns-rt...,1728047.story Yikes! A close call for Pacman.

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He started off slowly but very cautiously for the first two rounds. Then he fired up the buzzsaw and by the time the 6th round came, he knew Mosely couldn't hurt him and he poured it on. Mosely just couldn't deal with the hand speed, and that was even after Pacman's legs began cramping limiting his movement. Mosely also said that after being in the ring with Mayweather and now Pacquiao, there is no doubt in his mind, Pacquiao is the best

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Photos: Tom Casino/SHOWTIME

On the first Saturday of May, boxing’s top thoroughbred, global superstar and Filipino Congressman, Manny Pacquiao, won a resounding 12-round decision over Shane Mosley to retain his WBO welterweight title in the main event of a four-fight telecast produced and distributed by SHOWTIME PPV. The one-sided victory before 16,412 at the sold-out MGM Grand Garden Arena was the 14th in a row for Pacquiao, of General Santos City, Philippines.
Pacquiao was the aggressor throughout. Each boxer registered a knockdown; Pacquiao dropped Mosley with a solid left hand in the third round. Mosley got credit for a knockdown in the 11th, but replays showed that southpaw Pacquiao went down from a push.

“We tried our best,’’ said Pacquiao, who is universally recognized as boxing’s #1 pound-for-pound boxer. “We both gave it our best effort. My legs tightened up during the fight. I couldn’t move. It’s the same thing that happened to me against (Juan Manuel) Marquez. It’s been happening to me more lately.

“Mosley is not slow. He’s fast and I had to be cautious of his counter-punch.’’

Regarding a possible fight with Floyd Mayweather, Pacman said, “For me, I don’t care about that fight. I am satisfied with everything that I have done in boxing. I want to fight because the people want the fight.’’

Mosley, who has never been knocked out and is one of the great lightweight champions of all time, had nothing but praise for Pacquiao afterward.

“You can’t blame age,’’ said Mosley, who, at 39, is seven years older than Pacquiao. “Manny is an exceptional fighter. He truly is the pound-for-pound king. He has speed and power that I have never felt before.
“It’s amazing. He’s cut from my cloth so I had to box tonight.

“He surprised me with that power, with that knockdown. That’s the most legitimate knockdown on me in a long time.’’
An eight-division world champion, Pacquiao (53-3-2, 38 KOs) was victorious by the scores of 120-107, 120-108 and 119-108. Three division champion Mosley, of Pomona, Calif., dropped to 46-7-1 with 39 KOs.

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http://www.fightnewsextra.com/cc/201...acmosley03.htm

For those who were forced to watch the snooze fest that was the most recent UFC ppv, tune into this one.

I take it you only watched the GSP fight?

You had the slam-fest in the prelims, the TKO of the year in the Lyoto fight, and Hamonick going balls out despite a softball on his forehead against Aldo...

And even then, GSP was half blind...

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Looks like Shane Mosley also sets the example on how to lose to a better opponent with class.

[Diesel]

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I take it you only watched the GSP fight?

You had the slam-fest in the prelims, the TKO of the year in the Lyoto fight, and Hamonick going balls out despite a softball on his forehead against Aldo...

And even then, GSP was half blind...

I watched everything. It was dull. The Coture kick to the face and 1 round by Homeniuk were the only moments of note.

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I have found, generally (and Diesel I'm not necessarily directing this at you), but people who are "boxing fans" don't seem to really like MMA all that much.

[Diesel]

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Being involved in both sports gives me a slightly different perspective. MMA has sizzle, Boxing has the steak right now. There are a lot of bad PPV's being put on by the UFC in their rush to overexpose their brand, and the public is still buying but there is more complaints now than there was 3 years ago. Top end MMA guys fight not to lose now because their pay is a pittence compared to the high end boxing guys.

To compare:

GSP earned just over 1 million in 2010 for his in ring work

Pacquiao earned 20 million

Mosely made more than the entire payout of the last UFC card even with similar PPV buys @ 5 million. Pacquiao made 20 million. UFC fighters are being bent over hard by Dana White and the Zuffa bros. Minus the legitimacy of the contests, the UFC is another WWE. The promotor buys up the competition and laughs all the way to the bank while ripping off his atheletes and controlling the matchmaking.

At least in boxing with titles controlled by independent bodies, fighters get to act as independent contractors and get a much larger slice of the pie.

Neither is perfect but UFC fighters are getting severely ripped off considering the money coming in. It's almost criminal