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    #16
    Re: DDS vs. Numberz 2008

    Prime Minister of Canada?

    My opponent doesn't even know what position we're campaigning for. We're clearly running for Prime Minister of Esksfans.

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      #17
      Re: DDS vs. Numberz 2008

      My opponent is incorrect and has already forgotten the context in which he issued his challenge to me. Clearly not qualified.

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        #18
        Re: DDS vs. Numberz 2008

        I challenged you to an esksfans election. You forgot to ask for a specific definition and just like any debate that means that I set the definition of the election and we're running for Prime Minister of Esksfans.

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          #19
          Re: DDS vs. Numberz 2008

          DDS
          I see by your Crime and Justice platform is also your job creation platform. Looks like a lot of tax concessions and lots spending.
          When you don't know that you don't know, it's a lot different than when you do know that you don't know.

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            #20
            Re: DDS vs. Numberz 2008

            Holy crap!

            DDS is spending like a drunken Liberal and cutting taxes like a born again Reformer!

            From my quick calculations, your taxes will go up by $12389/household.

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              #21
              Re: DDS vs. Numberz 2008

              Originally posted by Numberz View Post
              I challenged you to an esksfans election. You forgot to ask for a specific definition and just like any debate that means that I set the definition of the election and we're running for Prime Minister of Esksfans.
              Really. You don't even know what you're running for. How can you be expected to govern properly.

              Evidence:

              DDS:
              Now, it's obvious from the events of the last week that I should be Prime Minister of this country.
              Numberz:
              I'll will run against you and defeat you.
              DDS:
              You wouldn't have a chance, sonny. No offense.
              Numberz:
              Oh, that's it....I challenge you to an esksfans election!

              Clearly the posters at Esksfans are voting to determine who would make a better Prime Minister of canada, DDS or Numberz.

              Looks very much like DDS is the clear choice.

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                #22
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                Originally posted by quake View Post
                DDS
                I see by your Crime and Justice platform is also your job creation platform. Looks like a lot of tax concessions and lots spending.
                The great depression proved to us that cutting spending during the downside of the business cycle worsens the economy. This I learned while studying economics, a subject which is the minor of my degree. I doubt very much that my opponent has such expertise.

                My crime and justice platform would put scumbags away for proper amounts of time and force them into treatments and education. My job creation program revolves around infrastructure spending and tax reductions.

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                  #23
                  Re: DDS vs. Numberz 2008

                  Originally posted by Uncle Bobby View Post
                  Holy crap!

                  DDS is spending like a drunken Liberal and cutting taxes like a born again Reformer!

                  From my quick calculations, your taxes will go up by $12389/household.

                  My estimates peg the surplus at many Billions, with most revenue coming from the tax on pop culture. And under my plan the tax base is greatly broadened.

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                    #24
                    Re: DDS vs. Numberz 2008

                    Originally posted by Deathsdoorstep View Post
                    DDS 08!!!

                    The DDS Campaign Platform


                    The Economy and Taxation

                    As Prime Minister I would ensure the continuing economic viability of Canada by not just acting to guide us through the current crisis, but guaranteeing future prosperity. My measures would include:

                    - Quadruple the tax credit for the purchase of fuel efficient cars and update the criteria to be more consistent.
                    - Ensuring that automakers who produce fuel efficient vehicles receive tax reductions on a scale based on the average fuel efficiency of every vehicle produced.
                    - Automakers who present a line of fuel efficient vehicles will qualify for limited government assistance to recover from the economic crisis.
                    - Rescue the Canadian portions of the pension plans of automakers who do not survive the next 5 years.
                    - Increase the personal exemption to $25,000. Let’s face it, if you make less than $25,000 you can’t afford to pay taxes.
                    - Introduce full income splitting.
                    - Double the Universal Childcare Benefit to $200 per month.
                    - Begin a 10-year, $100 Billion “Building the New Canada” infrastructure program focusing on funding for municipal roads and transit, as well as upgrades to the Trans-Canada Highway.
                    - Enshrine in legislation that all taxes collected on fuels must be spent on transportation infrastructure.
                    - Eliminate the tax on inheritance.
                    - Eliminate the tax on capital.
                    - Ensure the revenue for new projects by introducing a tax of $1.00 on consumption of pop culture. This will add $1.00 to the cost of movies, CDs, DVDs, video games, cable and internet bills, magazines and books.

                    The Environment

                    The world is warming up. We must do our part to prevent the end of the world as we know it. Even though other countries like the USA, Russia, China and India continue to behave as if global warming is fiction, Canadians know it is real. We will set the example for others to follow. My measures would include:

                    - Mandatory minimum fuel efficiency standards to be phased in over 5 years. By the end of the fifth year it will be illegal to produce a non-commercially used vehicle that has a fuel efficiency of more than 8 litres per 100 kilometres in the city.
                    - Replace the Homeowners Retrofit Grant Program with a direct tax credit of 20%. This would mean that you submit your receipts from the purchase of home retrofits like new insulation, windows, doors and furnaces, and reduce your taxable income by 20% of the amount you spent.
                    - Mandatory CO2 reductions on industry, phased in over a 10 year period. This would mean that all industries would have 10 years to bring their CO2 emissions down by 50%. If they miss their target, the fines will begin at $10,000,000. If they have not complied with a year, the fine doubles. This formula will remain in perpetuity.
                    - Ensuring that transit is a major aspect of the Building the New Canada program.


                    Crime and Justice

                    As Prime Minister it would be my duty to ensure the protection of Canada’s citizens. This must be balanced with a compassionate approach to rehabilitation that works.

                    - Mandatory life sentences without parole for pedophiles.
                    - Mandatory sentences of 15 years for aggravated sexual assault.
                    - Introduce mandatory education and treatment programs for all incarcerated inmates.
                    - Mandatory sentences of 10 years for crimes involving theft over $1,000.
                    - Legalize and tax marijuana immediately, but increase fines and sentences for more serious substances.
                    - Mandatory 15 year sentence for selling narcotics to a minor.
                    - Mandatory 15 year sentences for violent crimes involving firearms.
                    - Enshrine in legislation that corporate CEOs and board members will be held personally accountable for corporate acts of fraud and environmental law. This would include forfeiture of bonuses, fines, and jail time. Defrauding employees would carry a minimum of 15 years in prison.


                    Social Policy

                    Canada should be an inclusive country where people of different races, religions are not persecuted for their beliefs. However, not every belief is acceptable. Measures would include:

                    - Work in consultation with leaders of religious groups to add statutory holidays to our calendar so that Judaism, Islam and Aboriginal religions are represented. These, in addition to our current holidays based on Christian traditions, would be enshrined in legislation.
                    - Amend both the marriage act and divorce act to adequately reflect that while both heterosexual and homosexual marriage are protected, that marriages and social unions between more than two people are banned explicitly.
                    - It is time for integration between Canada’s aboriginals and the rest of Canada. It will be declared in legislation that all Canadians, including aboriginals are equal under the law.
                    - Acknowledge the importance of parenting and choice by implementing income splitting in the tax code and doubling the Universal Childcare benefit.

                    Constitutional Amendments

                    Canada’s institutions are broken. The time has come once and for all to fix them. My measures would include:

                    - A constitutional amendment to integrate Canada’s aboriginal population with the rest of Canada.
                    - Vigorous negotiation to bring Quebec fully into Canada as an equal Province, and signed onto the constitution. Should these negotiations fail, I will hold a referendum in every Province but Quebec that will determine if Quebec should be removed from the confederation by the rest of Canada.
                    - A constitutional amendment that would abolish the Senate.
                    - A constitutional amendment that would see to the election of the Governor General to a fixed term of 4 years.
                    - A constitutional amendment fixing election dates at 4 year intervals.



                    Parliamentary Amendments

                    Canada’s House of Commons is an institution that is outdated and in need of modernization. My measures would include:

                    - Amendments to the Standing Orders of the House of Commons eliminating confidence votes. This would ensure that the House of Commons would not be held hostage. It would also ensure that electoral brinkmanship is eliminated. MPs would be free to vote without the fear of causing an election.
                    - MP salaries and benefits would be indexed to inflation, with no other means to be increased.
                    Before you insult a man, walk a mile in his shoes. That way, when you insult him, you'll be a mile away, and have his shoes.

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                      #25
                      Re: DDS vs. Numberz 2008

                      Originally posted by Deathsdoorstep View Post
                      The great depression proved to us that cutting spending during the downside of the business cycle worsens the economy. This I learned while studying economics, a subject which is the minor of my degree. I doubt very much that my opponent has such expertise.

                      My crime and justice platform would put scumbags away for proper amounts of time and force them into treatments and education. My job creation program revolves around infrastructure spending and tax reductions.
                      A jump towards increased spending during a recession also shows your intentions to increase the government's power within society. My intentions would be to try and avoid this. I would reduce spending in Saskatchewan, because they already have excessive government programs, and are going through an economic growth...and reallocate this spending to other provinces. At the same time, overall government spending would go up but I would also implement tax breaks to help jump start spending to help with recession. It might hurt the current financial position of the government, but I'm looking towards the future.

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                        #26
                        Re: DDS vs. Numberz 2008

                        Originally posted by Deathsdoorstep View Post
                        The great depression proved to us that cutting spending during the downside of the business cycle worsens the economy. This I learned while studying economics, a subject which is the minor of my degree. I doubt very much that my opponent has such expertise.

                        My crime and justice platform would put scumbags away for proper amounts of time and force them into treatments and education. My job creation program revolves around infrastructure spending and tax reductions.
                        You will be building crap loads of jails and will need the people to staff them. The single line of mandatory 10 years for theft over $1,000.00 is going to overflow the current justice system.

                        Speaking of provinces, thoughts on transfer payments.
                        When you don't know that you don't know, it's a lot different than when you do know that you don't know.

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                          #27
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                          Originally posted by Numberz View Post
                          A jump towards increased spending during a recession also shows your intentions to increase the government's power within society. My intentions would be to try and avoid this. I would reduce spending in Saskatchewan, because they already have excessive government programs, and are going through an economic growth...and reallocate this spending to other provinces. At the same time, overall government spending would go up but I would also implement tax breaks to help jump start spending to help with recession. It might hurt the current financial position of the government, but I'm looking towards the future.
                          So you wish to do the job of the Premier of Saskatchewan while Prime Minister? Do you not understand the separation of powers under our constitution?

                          In addition to not know how Canada's governance works, you contradict yourself.

                          You say first that "A jump towards increased spending during a recession also shows your intentions to increase the government's power within society." Then you go on later to say "overall government spending would go up"

                          I think that you are confused.

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                            #28
                            Re: DDS vs. Numberz 2008

                            Overall spending would go up, as you mentioned, that's basic economic theory, not as much as your platform says wants to though. Raise spending by a bit, but decrease taxes as well.

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                              #29
                              Re: DDS vs. Numberz 2008

                              Originally posted by quake View Post
                              You will be building crap loads of jails and will need the people to staff them. The single line of mandatory 10 years for theft over $1,000.00 is going to overflow the current justice system.

                              Speaking of provinces, thoughts on transfer payments.
                              If jails need to be built, then they will be. Lack of infrastructure will no longer prevent proper justice in Canada under my watch.

                              My thoughts on transfer payments: Canada's biggest transfers are the Canada Health Transfer and the Canada Social Transfer. These were separated a few years ago. These transfers are put in place due to negotiated deals with the provinces over healthcare and other programs of shared jurisdiction. I would not eliminate them. I believe that the Provinces should deliver health, but that there should be a national standard. The transfers also represent a mitigation of the fiscal imbalance between levels of government.

                              Equalization is a different kettle of fish. My view on that is that it is more important to solve the aboriginal and Quebec issues within our constitution than the equalization issue, another constitutional issue. I am going under the assumption that I could not accomplish all 3 at the same time. However, if given the time, I would phase out equalization. But it is not in my platform because I don't think it can be done alongside the aboriginal and Quebec issues without breaking up Canada.

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                                #30
                                Re: DDS vs. Numberz 2008

                                It doesn't matter anyway....we're running for the Prime Minister of Esksfans.

                                As a vBookie, I would increase the amount of vBookie events, with ones involving new sports and increased props to bet on. I would also listen to the people's concerns and suggestions for new vBookie and attempt to implement them to the best of my ability.

                                As FGOTG manager, I would make sure that there would be no missed games, and would also attempt to revive the Eskimo First TD of the Game events, and possibly venture into other sports as requested by the people.

                                You would get this and many more with me as your Prime Minister. So when it comes time to cast your vote, vote Numberz.

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