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    #31
    Re: 3 Dead in Armoured Car Shooting

    Originally posted by Angelus View Post
    Excellent news.

    I honestly thought this one would end in suicide by cop or something.
    The guy was too much of a coward to die by suicide by cop. It ended exactly how I predicted it would end with his plate being scanned at a border crossing. I also predicted he would be caught in 24 to 48 hours. Not only does he look stupid, he is a moron.

    He was a coward, he likely shot the first three in the back of the head as they were carrying heavy bags into the ABM room. He then probably lured the fourth guy out of the truck to help the others and shot him in the back of the head too. He didn't risk body shots since they wear body armour.

    He would have got farther if he hadn't harmed anyone. He was destined to fail based on his incredible stupidity. Switching plated with his mothers vehicle was pure stupidity. He would have been smarter to do the same with another blue Ford F-150. The theft of money from an ABM was stupid too. The serials are all recorded and tracked. He could not have exchanged it in any large sums at any financial institutions. How was he going to use it in the States? He would have been better off staying in Canada and changing his appearance. But he would have only been able to spend the money in small amounts. He'd have been better off with money from mall pick-ups. That money is not tracked yet. He didn't even know he required a passport to cross the border.

    The death penalty would be too good for this imbecile. He should be locked up for life, but all he will get is 25 years with no eligibility for parole for 25 years. Hopefully he will get three terms (75 years). But oddly regardless of the sentence, he can apply for parole at 12 years (even though the law says he is not eligible for 25 years).

    If I were setting the rules this cold hearted killer would have a feeding tube for the rest of his life. I differ from the rest of you, I don't think he was a pyscho, he suffers from a lack of compassion, any understanding of life, and has an IQ lower than a monkey.
    Placing the Alberta Flag on the Calgary Flames uniform is akin to putting lipstick on a Pig
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      #32
      Re: 3 Dead in Armoured Car Shooting

      I think he would have killed again, but only if he had the advantage. There was no way he was going to get in a gun fight with the police. That would have taken both courage and stupidity. He only had the latter.

      This was out of pure greed. The sad thing is he will be free again at 47 or earlier. He will likely get credit for time served while in custody before he is brought to justice (which is normally double time or more).
      Placing the Alberta Flag on the Calgary Flames uniform is akin to putting lipstick on a Pig
      Pizmo Loves Nanookster

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        #33
        Re: 3 Dead in Armoured Car Shooting

        hope the SOB lives long enough to serve his double life sentence. That said, I hope he gets the crap beat out of him every damned day he is in prison.
        https://www.reddit.com/r/EdmontonSports/

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          #34
          Re: 3 Dead in Armoured Car Shooting

          The accused was caught with over 330K in tow. Surprised he didn't pull a D.B. Cooper and bury it somewhere...

          http://www.edmontonjournal.com/news/...957/story.html

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            #35
            Re: 3 Dead in Armoured Car Shooting

            Some experts say this wasn't about money at all , but a result of depressed, mentality unstable person. The expert mentioned his ongoing status updates in facebook. Also said if this was about money, there would have been safer, and easier ways of getting this cash than the way he did.



            I tend to agree.. theres something wrong with this douche and it wasn't money motivated. But I hope to hell they don't pull the "insane" defence and letting him get off easier than he should

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              #36
              Re: 3 Dead in Armoured Car Shooting

              Originally posted by Nanookster View Post
              I think he would have killed again, but only if he had the advantage. There was no way he was going to get in a gun fight with the police. That would have taken both courage and stupidity. He only had the latter.

              This was out of pure greed. The sad thing is he will be free again at 47 or earlier. He will likely get credit for time served while in custody before he is brought to justice (which is normally double time or more).
              The 2 for 1 rule has been phased out now (except for natives) but it was never used in cases involving life sentences.

              Canada does not sentence people to consecutive terms and given his age he will start to get day passes within 4-5 years and will have full parole at age 47.

              As far as intelligence goes-- well lets put it this way-- half of Canadians have an IQ that is less than average and this guy would probably be sporting a value in the 75-80 range.

              He saw some military magazine on-line that said you could live in some isolated society in the Arizona desert where you could have 6 wives and no one would ever find you. Manson had the same plan.

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                #37
                Re: 3 Dead in Armoured Car Shooting

                Originally posted by Evil Dr. Len View Post
                hope the SOB lives long enough to serve his double life sentence. That said, I hope he gets the crap beat out of him every damned day he is in prison.
                Because he killed authority figures he will be seen as a hero in prison.

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                  #38
                  Re: 3 Dead in Armoured Car Shooting

                  I'm a little worried about what HIS side of the story - describing how it went down - will sound like... I'm not sure I want to hear the details.

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                    #39
                    Re: 3 Dead in Armoured Car Shooting

                    Feel terrible for the families as a close friend of mine is very good friends with the sister of Illesic. I wonder if there is a relation to Hank?
                    I will not, for a moment longer, support an organization who chooses to cowardly kneel where they once fiercely & proudly stood

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                      #40
                      Re: 3 Dead in Armoured Car Shooting

                      Quick note, Moontoscott, Life sentences are actually your whole life in Canada. Yes, Parole is an option, and some folks have gotten it that shouldn't have, but a life sentence is until you die. He could well stay in his whole life.

                      Also, the young lady was trained in security by a friend of mine. Moved to Alberta due to lack of jobs in the Armoured Car positions here. It was actually her specific dream......
                      R.I.P. Coach Harris

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                        #41
                        Re: 3 Dead in Armoured Car Shooting

                        Originally posted by Macavity View Post
                        Quick note, Moontoscott, Life sentences are actually your whole life in Canada. Yes, Parole is an option, and some folks have gotten it that shouldn't have, but a life sentence is until you die. He could well stay in his whole life.

                        Also, the young lady was trained in security by a friend of mine. Moved to Alberta due to lack of jobs in the Armoured Car positions here. It was actually her specific dream......
                        Yes, you are quite correct about the life sentence but due to his age at the time of the offence (21) I find it hard to believe that there will be no parole at age 47. He should be thrown in with Bernardo and the crazy colonel for the rest of his natural life but of course he won't be. Note how the politically correct crowd have already stepped forward with stories of him being bullied and depressed. Standard issue.

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                          #42
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                          Originally posted by Diesel View Post
                          Feel terrible for the families as a close friend of mine is very good friends with the sister of Illesic. I wonder if there is a relation to Hank?
                          Yes, a nephew. Just caught it on CTV.

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                            #43
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                            This guy should face a firing sqaud but sadly will probaby be deemed insane and we all know what will happen then. Sad justice system here.

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                              #44
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                              Originally posted by Muley69 View Post
                              I'm a little worried about what HIS side of the story - describing how it went down - will sound like... I'm not sure I want to hear the details.
                              I think he is going to owe up to this, I don't feel he was crazy. He quoted lines from movies on his facebook page, it isn't like he made any of the lines up. He was greedy and lacked compassion. He shot four people in the back of the head. He was a coward who didn't think this through.

                              Had he not killed anyone he would still be running with the money. The manhunt would have been as intense. He could have got away with it easily considering:

                              1. Armored guards do not have loaded guns.
                              2. Armored guards are instructed to give up the money without a fight.
                              Placing the Alberta Flag on the Calgary Flames uniform is akin to putting lipstick on a Pig
                              Pizmo Loves Nanookster

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                                #45
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                                Originally posted by Nanookster View Post
                                I think he is going to owe up to this, I don't feel he was crazy. He quoted lines from movies on his facebook page, it isn't like he made any of the lines up. He was greedy and lacked compassion. He shot four people in the back of the head. He was a coward who didn't think this through.

                                Had he not killed anyone he would still be running with the money. The manhunt would have been as intense. He could have got away with it easily considering:

                                1. Armored guards do not have loaded guns.
                                2. Armored guards are instructed to give up the money without a fight.
                                They don't have loaded guns? So why do they make them take a course that lasts a week on how to use a gun before they start their job?

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