Police shootings

[pizmo]

Just watched a body cam video of the man shot and killed by police in NC. You couldn't see anything but the body laying on the ground moaning while the cops were yelling to get cuffs on him. What is wrong with society and in particular, American society, that such things become commonplace. I am sickened and disgusted.

[turftoe27]

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You have to wonder about the training, education and IQ, etc , of the police involved in these shootings. No discretion used at all. Almost a mob mentality. Policing is a harsh , stressful business. Thankfully most of us will never have to deal with the situations that they deal with on a daily basis. But some of these shooting are out and out murder. Hopefully justice will be served in this case. There are far more good police officers than bad. Unfortunately for the most part we see only the bad ones.

[Smartie123]

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One could argue that this thread could be combined with the Kaepernick thread since this is actually what his protest is/was about. Just sayin'....

[glenvb]

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I was actually just a couple of miles away from the St Paul shooting last July when it happened. I believe that it has always been like this. The reason we're seeing it so much and it's coming out is that everyone has the capacity to record video at a moment's notice for the first time. These things can't be isolated from us anymore.

[Deathsdoorstep]

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Shooting an unarmed suspect is wrong. Period.

Only making it a news story when it happens to someone of a particular race to frame a narrative is also wrong.

[Nanookster]

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You have to wonder about the training, education and IQ, etc , of the police involved in these shootings. No discretion used at all. Almost a mob mentality. Policing is a harsh , stressful business. Thankfully most of us will never have to deal with the situations that they deal with on a daily basis. But some of these shooting are out and out murder. Hopefully justice will be served in this case. There are far more good police officers than bad. Unfortunately for the most part we see only the bad ones.

I can't say I agree with you. What we see in social media is a snap-shot in time. We get one frame from an entire reel of film. When there is a police involved shooting the police are instantly considered guilty. The man shot in NC had an armed weapon, not only was it armed, the hammer was back. It was cocked and ready to fire. He was also mentally unstable and in the ownership of a lethal weapon.

The black policeman who shot him was university educated. All accounts state he was a caring and considerate person. I am certain he was well trained.

The fact is the US is a very dangerous place to police. Everyday is life threatening as a policeman. When you discharge a weapon, you are taught to kill.

[Diesel]

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When cops have to deal with this type of stuff as an increasing part of their daily lives, one can easily see the other side of the coin. It doesn't justify cases where poor police work and crimes by police have occurred, but ask yourself if you could give the benefit of doubt to someone who isn't complying with you?

Rule one for anyone pulled over by the cops, regardless of race color or creed: they are in charge, and it better be yessir, no sir, three bags full sir, check your attitude, and don't make his job harder than it already is.

Warning. this vid is graphic

http://vidmax.com/video/142784-Compi...rmed-suspects-

[Deathsdoorstep]

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When cops have to deal with this type of stuff as an increasing part of their daily lives, one can easily see the other side of the coin. It doesn't justify cases where poor police work and crimes by police have occurred, but ask yourself if you could give the benefit of doubt to someone who isn't complying with you?

Rule one for anyone pulled over by the cops, regardless of race color or creed: they are in charge, and it better be yessir, no sir, three bags full sir, check your attitude, and don't make his job harder than it already is.

Warning. this vid is graphic

http://vidmax.com/video/142784-Compi...rmed-suspects-

Exactly right.

[Nanookster]

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Exactly right.

But you don't agree wih the person shot by the female cop?

I do feel she made an error, but the man also wasn't complying, he was walking away and putting his hands up and down.

When he reached for the vehicle she panicked, but he was acting odd from the start of all of this incident. She fired at the same time the other cop fired his taser.

She was on the way to a domestic call when she found this guy wandering around the road with his vehicle left in the middle of nowhere.

[Deathsdoorstep]

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But you don't agree wih the person shot by the female cop?

I do feel she made an error, but the man also wasn't complying, he was walking away and putting his hands up and down.

When he reached for the vehicle she panicked, but he was acting odd from the start of all of this incident. She fired at the same time the other cop fired his taser.

She was on the way to a domestic call when she found this guy wandering around the road with his vehicle left in the middle of nowhere.

Mate, he was tasered first, THEN she shot him.

[pizmo]

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Mate, he was tasered first, THEN she shot him.

Where did you see this reported?

[Deathsdoorstep]

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It's pretty much what every report I've read has stated. It's also on camera.

[OK14]

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When cops have to deal with this type of stuff as an increasing part of their daily lives, one can easily see the other side of the coin. It doesn't justify cases where poor police work and crimes by police have occurred, but ask yourself if you could give the benefit of doubt to someone who isn't complying with you?

Rule one for anyone pulled over by the cops, regardless of race color or creed: they are in charge, and it better be yessir, no sir, three bags full sir, check your attitude, and don't make his job harder than it already is.

Warning. this vid is graphic

http://vidmax.com/video/142784-Compi...rmed-suspects-

Agreed with all of the above.

And in the midst of all this, let's remember that for every corrupt and/or trigger-happy cop out there, there are plenty of other upstanding men and women in the police force who are doing their very best to keep society safe and uphold the law.

Case in point: Ohio Cop drives man 100 miles to reunite him with grieving family for sister's funeral

Also, this scamming-awareness video from a police department in Texas is an entertaining example of an officer "protecting and serving" his community by trolling a telemarketer (and giving some practical safety tips too).

[Deathsdoorstep]

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Cops should not shoot unarmed people, period.

It pisses me off, though, that it's only news when it happens to a black guy.

[eskfan152]

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Cops should not shoot unarmed people, period.

It pisses me off, though, that it's only news when it happens to a black guy.

I agree with you on all of this, but I also think that in extremely tense situations, some onus needs to be put on the unarmed person to let the cops involved know very quickly that they are in fact unarmed and cooperate.