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    #1

    Fire Hall and Maciocia

    I have been an Eskimo fan for over 50 years and quite frankly this game was the most disgusting display I have seen in that time. Today we witnessed a team that couldn't execute, couldn't tackle, couldn't catch, simply put, could not play football. But the most inexcusable part of this abomination was the absolutely lack of coaching. Could somebody explain to me why in heavens name do we have a back-up quarterback, we obviously have a coach who hasn't got the brains to realize it, or we have a GM that won't let him make a change!

    How Ricky Ray was still in the game after the 1st quarter is a total mystery. Hall may be a nice guy but he simply does not have the brains to coach in this league.
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    Re: Fire Hall and Maciocia

    Hall hasn't impressed my one iota since arriving..

    I've said it before,
    seems like a nice guy, but I don't think he has the balls for hc..

    Maybe that was the reason he was passed over so many times in the past?

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      #3
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      I've been saying the same thing for more 3 years now. In my mind Ricky has something on the organization and people are afraid to pull him. Sure, he is the most accurate passer in the league in man coverage! Hands down! But his arm strength is unable to throw over zone coverages consitently and he goes back to 5 yard outs and screens. I'd love to see somebody else from start to finish for a while to see the difference.

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        #4
        Re: Fire Hall and Maciocia

        Keeping Ray in is the right move. Z isn't ready and JM is way way past his prime.

        Ray got us back in the game. That last INT was killer though...
        "No one entertains the thought that maybe God does not believe in you." - Bo Burnham

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          Re: Fire Hall and Maciocia

          Originally posted by Angelus View Post
          Keeping Ray in is the right move. Z isn't ready and JM is way way past his prime.

          Ray got us back in the game. That last INT was killer though...
          If the QB is not doing the job, pull him. If for no other reason but to send a message. Ray is not a god, think back to our last Grey Cup march. When Ray wasn't moving the team, he was replaced and guess what, the team responed.

          If the coach and management don't have the collective brains to understand that, then get somebody who does!

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            #6
            Re: Fire Hall and Maciocia

            Gas Hall this week and Danny can take over this mess till the end of the year. If he can't bring them back and make the playoffs then he goes too. Enough of this crap. Something is seriously wrong with this organization.

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              #7
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              This team has had terminal cancer ever since Hugh Campbell stepped down. It's infected everyone from the president to the GM, the coaching staff and the players. I'm afraid canning Maciocia doesn't fix it at this point. We need a housecleaning from the top down, starting with Rick LeLacheur. Him, Maciocia and Hall should be ridden out of town immediately. Starting next year, we need to tear this team down personell wise too. Everyone who isn't worthy of the colors needs to be shown the door.

              The sad fact is that we've become the Riders from 10 years ago, when they were sad sacks of the league every year and kept hanging their hopes on the same guys that let them down year after year. We need to do something drastic to right the good ship Eskimo, and LeLacheur is the only place to start.

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                #8
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                Zabransky isn't going to be ready until he gets reps and when you're losing like they did yesterday, that's a decent time to get him those reps.

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                  I was confounded yesterday as that game is going down the toilet in the first five minutes TSN shows RH standing alone on the sideline not saying a word to anyone. As the game goes on I don't think they showed RH interacting with a single person, and they showed him a lot. I don't expect him to be a raving lunitic on the sidline (although I would have been if I were him) but should'nt he be doing some coaching?

                  I don't put this all on RH this was a team effort, starting at the top (DM). Ray has been riding his reputation for a few years now, but hasn't deserved his league elite status since he came back from that shoulder injury.

                  I like Maas's fire, but he is not the future of this team, my sense is he is on a semi-retirement plan here. I think he will be another player turned coach on this old boys club.

                  This is going to be a long season.

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                    #10
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                    I don't intend this as a personal shot at anyone, but how on earth can anyone say that "DM isn't the problem?", as was said in another thread and like MacKinnon seems to imply. Maybe DM is not THE problem, but he certainly is A problem.

                    We all know that the team has performed poorly since he's taken over in one form or another, barring the miracle Grey Cup in '05. So, he's not to blame? That doesn't make sense. We say the team has talent. Well, this "talented" team is 0 and 4. And the talented team from last year that didn't win a playoff game? His team. His coach. Oh, wait, the playoff streak broken? He was the guy. Now, I'm not advocating that we call him insulting names, question his parentage, or things like that.

                    And, if this team turns it around, and wins the Cup this year (like that's going to happen), I'll give him all the credit he deserves. But if I'm going to give him credit when things well, I sure as heck am going to give him "credit" when things don't go well.


                    You want to be the man in charge, you get credit when things go well, and you get the heat when they don't. Probably too much credit when things go well, and too much criticism when things go well. But that's the nature of the beast! Don't think that's fair? Don't take the job and give it to someone who can take it.

                    If you give DM a pass, if he doesn't get at least some of the blame for the fiascos of the last few years, then the whole concept of accountability goes out the window. Oh wait, it has.
                    Last edited by BCEsksFan; 07-25-2010, 08:07 PM.

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                      #11
                      Re: Fire Hall and Maciocia

                      Originally posted by esquimauxjunkie View Post
                      If the QB is not doing the job, pull him. If for no other reason but to send a message. Ray is not a god, think back to our last Grey Cup march. When Ray wasn't moving the team, he was replaced and guess what, the team responded.

                      If the coach and management don't have the collective brains to understand that, then get somebody who does!
                      Credit Maciocca for making that move. He's isn't as dumb as everyone says he is.
                      If we were put on this earth to help others, what were the others put on earth for?

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                        #12
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                        Maciocca couldn't even figure out that the game wasn't over when he started dancing on the field like the captain of the Glee Club! If "Z" is the next guy , then I agree, play him cause RR isn't doing it and it's not all his fault, it's not like he's been getting any help but a week off might just light a fire under him again. I can't for the life of me understand why he isn't ripping the "O" line when they are letting him get pummeled??

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                          #13
                          Re: Fire Hall and Maciocia

                          Firing a coach when the season has already started (especially only 4 games in) is a recipe for disaster - see Worman, Rick.

                          Although I certainly wouldn't mind DM being fired, I also suggest it be done after the end of the season. Certainly, as someone else said, because there's no one else better right now.

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                            Originally posted by infidean View Post
                            I was confounded yesterday as that game is going down the toilet in the first five minutes TSN shows RH standing alone on the sideline not saying a word to anyone. As the game goes on I don't think they showed RH interacting with a single person, and they showed him a lot. I don't expect him to be a raving lunitic on the sidline (although I would have been if I were him) but should'nt he be doing some coaching?

                            I don't put this all on RH this was a team effort, starting at the top (DM). Ray has been riding his reputation for a few years now, but hasn't deserved his league elite status since he came back from that shoulder injury.

                            I like Maas's fire, but he is not the future of this team, my sense is he is on a semi-retirement plan here. I think he will be another player turned coach on this old boys club.

                            This is going to be a long season.
                            I remember when Ray first came back in 05, Glen Suitor commented on his arm strength and said something about Ray being injured when he was in the NFL. I guess he got injured in practice or something? I think it was a shoulder injury..anyway, Suitor said something about his arm not having the strength it used to. I honestly think that it's more of an O-line issue though as I still see that Ray has what it takes to throw an accurate deep ball if he has time. I think he's rushing his throws at times due to getting rushed or hit every other play. We've had this O-line problem for five years now...can someone please tell me what the hell is going on with it?

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                              #15
                              Re: Fire Hall and Maciocia

                              Originally posted by Rayminator View Post
                              Although I certainly wouldn't mind DM being fired, I also suggest it be done after the end of the season. Certainly, as someone else said, because there's no one else better right now.
                              I see what you mean, Rayminator, and I don't think it would help right now. On the other hand, the team couldn't do worse than it has!

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