Esks sign Robbie Vaughn

[Red Dog]

Re: Esks sign Robbie Vaughn

If history is any indication Stubler would rather go with an American at safety.. He has always favoured import safeties in every defense I've seen him run- if he is limited by numbers or if he has a smart stay-at-home type (like Trent Brown) he'll run with a non-import. I think Richardson certainly fits that mold as his play improved dramatically last year. Warning to the non-import safeties currently on the Eskimos roster.. Stubler will be very, very hard on all of you during camp.. He'll expect you to know where every member of the secondary is supposed to be on every single play. He doesn't ask for much: He just wants/needs your SOUL. I'd look for Stubler's American-at-safety-trend to continue unless Richardson or Borhot start mentally playing out of this world during year's camp..

Whew, that is some great advice!

Coach looks at the safety as the QB of the D. This position will be filled by an Import, expect ratio moves to be made in other positions, I would think they will try to start Alexander and spell him with Clarke. Stubs knows Clarke, that kid is going to get his chance to show what he's got. Borhot is a solid special teams player. Stubs also puts a premium on guys who kill it on special teams, great way to earn your stripes with him.

All I can say is newbies better run both ways on and off that field, and give 110 percent while they are out there cause Coach Stubs will be fierce.

FIFO

BTW Diez- B-Miles rocked it! He would have been my choice here for ST Coordinator, the man has a lot to give and will be a great coach in this league

[GreatWhiteNorth]

Re: Esks sign Robbie Vaughn

Whew, that is some great advice!

Coach looks at the safety as the QB of the D. This position will be filled by an Import, expect ratio moves to be made in other positions, I would think they will try to start Alexander and spell him with Clarke. Stubs knows Clarke, that kid is going to get his chance to show what he's got. Borhot is a solid special teams player. Stubs also puts a premium on guys who kill it on special teams, great way to earn your stripes with him.

I don't have any inside knowledge as to what Stubler or the other coaches are looking for, but by your statement of the the S needing to QB the defence, wouldn't that mean looking for someone a little more experienced in thinking the Canadian game? Unless we're talking about picking up a veteran from another team or moving someone else back there, Richardson would seem the most ready "mentally" to be making reads back there. Most of the import DBs we're bringing in will be getting their first taste of longer and wider, 12 men, running starts at the line, etc, and it would seem a lot to ask of a newcomer to step into a role of having to make those adjustments for everyone.

I respect the insight that Stubler likes the idea of an import at S, but would've thought that might've been a preference for top-tier physical ability.

There's also been a lot of talk that the scheme will be created based on the pieces he has to work with. No doubt that Richardson and Borhot will have to go out and win that job, but it seems to me that with no NI depth at LB, and a still evolving picture at DT (Bulke?/Sterling/Reid), Saftey and weakside corner might be where he finds his pieces stacking up. Could come down to whether he's asked to start 3 NIs or not in the overall ratio picture. No?

[SandManFan]

Re: Esks sign Robbie Vaughn

I'll be putting my money on the import safety, but not necessarily Vaughn - I think there is someone on the roster currently that Stubler and co feel can play safety. (My first guess would be Weldon Brown) There will be a Canadian elsewhere in the secondary but don't be surprised if its NOT weakside corner

[Rotor]

Re: Esks sign Robbie Vaughn

If history is any indication Stubler would rather go with an American at safety.. He has always favoured import safeties in every defense I've seen him run- if he is limited by numbers or if he has a smart stay-at-home type (like Trent Brown) he'll run with a non-import. I think Richardson certainly fits that mold as his play improved dramatically last year. Warning to the non-import safeties currently on the Eskimos roster.. Stubler will be very, very hard on all of you during camp.. He'll expect you to know where every member of the secondary is supposed to be on every single play. He doesn't ask for much: He just wants/needs your SOUL. I'd look for Stubler's American-at-safety-trend to continue unless Richardson or Borhot start mentally playing out of this world during year's camp..

thanks Jedrock - I appreciate your comments and stand by my own - if Edm plays a CDN S - I will be very surprised

[cmbuk]

Re: Esks sign Robbie Vaughn

thanks Jedrock - I appreciate your comments and stand by my own - if Edm plays a CDN S - I will be very surprised

so what we intending to do with richardson & borhot???

[SandManFan]

Re: Esks sign Robbie Vaughn

even with an import starter I could see NI backups at the position. If their skill set doesn't fit what the new system will require of a safety then hopefully be able to trade them rather than just cut outright.

[Jedrock43]

Re: Esks sign Robbie Vaughn

If neither make the starting line up they will both figure prominently on special teams and see playing time on defense as back ups. Might see one or both of them playing a role on dime packages.
I feel I need to reiterate how impressed I am with Richardson's learning curve since he has broken into the league.. I like his style and look for him to have a good career. I don't really know much about Borhot other than to say that from what I've seen of him he looks like he has good range.

I was very critical of Richardson in his rookie year but last season he showed me something.

[merlin67]

Re: Esks sign Robbie Vaughn

I know this is late in posting, but what ever happened to Vaughn? He seemed to just disappear from the TC roster without any announcement of being cut.

[cmbuk]

Re: Esks sign Robbie Vaughn

He was one of the first cuts..