U. Of Manitoba Football Team Forced To Forfeit Two Victories

[budha]

For those who are interested in U of A football as this does affect them.

EDMONTON -- The Canada West Universities Athletic Association overturned the results of three Manitoba Bisons games Tuesday due to an eligibility violation.

http://www.tsn.ca/cis/story/?id=297089

This means that the U of S will play Regina and the U of A will travel to Calgary

[Uncle Bobby]

Re: U. Of Manitoba Football Team Forced To Forfeit Two Victories

Wow. That is huge.

[Inquiring Mind]

Re: U. Of Manitoba Football Team Forced To Forfeit Two Victories

Didn't Manitoba already benefit from one of two forfeited games from SFU already?

They had... not anymore apparently

A third game at Simon Fraser has been declared "no contest" because both teams used an ineligible player. The final scores for the two overturned games are recorded as 1-0 forfeits by Manitoba. All statistics for the three contests will remain intact.

Wow

[budha]

Re: U. Of Manitoba Football Team Forced To Forfeit Two Victories

Given that there have been 2 this year, I would hope that all of the programs closely exam all of their players just to make sure.

[glenvb]

Re: U. Of Manitoba Football Team Forced To Forfeit Two Victories

What's with all the violations in Canada West?

I'm guessing that if you crack down on one team, you've got to crack down on 'em all.

[gizmo fan 2]

Re: U. Of Manitoba Football Team Forced To Forfeit Two Victories

Were these academic inelligabilities (sp)?

Not 100% academic, no.

SFU's was because some kid transferred up from a NCAA school - normally, you have to sit out a year when you transfer. But if you go into a graduate program, the year is waived. There was some confusion over whether this kid was actually in the grad program or not, IIRC.

Manitoba's was because some guy got suspended in 2001 for steroids, which is a 4-year suspension (including 4 yrs of eligibility)...and he played last year for his 5th year, and this year would've been his 6th year...therefore, he's ineligible.

Or something like that, anyways.

[EskiPhenom]

Re: U. Of Manitoba Football Team Forced To Forfeit Two Victories

Not 100% academic, no.

SFU's was because some kid transferred up from a NCAA school - normally, you have to sit out a year when you transfer. But if you go into a graduate program, the year is waived. There was some confusion over whether this kid was actually in the grad program or not, IIRC.

Manitoba's was because some guy got suspended in 2001 for steroids, which is a 4-year suspension (including 4 yrs of eligibility)...and he played last year for his 5th year, and this year would've been his 6th year...therefore, he's ineligible.

Or something like that, anyways.

Ya Manitoba had it coming...but the stuff with SFU is bull.

The football season starts so early that when acceptance into Grad Studies goes down to the wire (and in this case, it did), that nobody at SFU should be considered at fault. WHen those games were played, the kid really expected to get into Grad Studies, and so did everybody else. When he didn;t get in, he didn't play any more. Changing the results after the fact seems stupid to me. It would be like asking for the Grad awards the give to swimmers at CIS back because they withdrew from a course, or the calender changed. Its a dumb move.

[writfiler]

Re: U. Of Manitoba Football Team Forced To Forfeit Two Victories

It seems to me that the Bisons won the Vanier Cup a couple of seasons ago with a team whose average age was 29 or so!! Was there some hanky panky going on then as well??

In any event, it won't matter much for the Bears. They'll now have a much shorter bus trip on their way to getting throttled in the semis.......

[Wilkie12]

Re: U. Of Manitoba Football Team Forced To Forfeit Two Victories

Doesn't surprise me considering Manitoba has been viewed as having suspect academic requirements for years. High school players the Bears pass on due to their inability to meet university entrance requirements somehow manage to end up playing for the Bisons.

[gizmo fan 2]

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Ya Manitoba had it coming...but the stuff with SFU is bull.

The football season starts so early that when acceptance into Grad Studies goes down to the wire (and in this case, it did), that nobody at SFU should be considered at fault. WHen those games were played, the kid really expected to get into Grad Studies, and so did everybody else. When he didn;t get in, he didn't play any more. Changing the results after the fact seems stupid to me. It would be like asking for the Grad awards the give to swimmers at CIS back because they withdrew from a course, or the calender changed. Its a dumb move.

Just IMO, I think this might've been a "GTFO of our conference" move as far as SFU went, with them going to NCAA and all. I also remember hearing that there was some confusion over self-disclosure with regards to the SFU situation, but I'm not sure what happened there - that might've had something to do with it as well.

[Inquiring Mind]

Re: U. Of Manitoba Football Team Forced To Forfeit Two Victories

Just IMO, I think this might've been a "GTFO of our conference" move as far as SFU went, with them going to NCAA and all. I also remember hearing that there was some confusion over self-disclosure with regards to the SFU situation, but I'm not sure what happened there - that might've had something to do with it as well.

Kind of defeats the purpose after they already announced they're leaving, no?!

It's like when the girlfriend announces she's "leaving your broke ass"... and then as she's going out the door I say "Yeah, well you're ugly and and your mother dresses you funny"... then she's all like "you're an idiot" and slams the door... and then I'm like "NO, you're dumped, yeah, I'm dumping you!'... then you get REALLY drunk and leave 10-or-15 messages... then there is some business about a restraining order, pfft.

Or is that just me?

[gizmo fan 2]

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Kind of defeats the purpose after they already announced they're leaving, no?!

It's like when the girlfriend announces she's "leaving your broke ass"... and then as she's going out the door I say "Yeah, well you're ugly and and your mother dresses you funny"... then she's all like "you're an idiot" and slams the door... and then I'm like "NO, you're dumped, yeah, I'm dumping you!'... then you get REALLY drunk and leave 10-or-15 messages... then there is some business about a restraining order, pfft.

Or is that just me?

Yeah, something like that. Parting shot.

[turftoe27]

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They lose their whole season because of a player whose total contribution was 8 receptions for 66 yds and one TD. You would figure someone in Bison adminitration should know the eligibility rules.

[budha]

Re: U. Of Manitoba Football Team Forced To Forfeit Two Victories

It seems to me that the Bisons won the Vanier Cup a couple of seasons ago with a team whose average age was 29 or so!! Was there some hanky panky going on then as well??

The Bisons won in the last year that former Junior Football players (Hilltops, Huskies, Colts ...) could play out their Junior elligability and then play a full 5 CIS seasons. I know that there quarterback played his full junior carear in Regina with the Thunder and then moved to Manitoba to play.

I do think that the SFU punnishment was harsh, as the kid was trying to get into the school. The fact the guy from MAintoba was suspended for drugs, I have no simpathy.

[Giant Moo]

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I'm guessing that if you crack down on one team, you've got to crack down on 'em all.

That sounds like... consistency.

Huh.

Maybe the CFL should look into that?

*holds breath*