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    Here is my big problem with our GM...

    I've said before that I think DM does some things very well as a coach. He knows the game really well, I think most of the players like playing for him. I think he lets his coordinators do their job. (Contrary to what some people think.) He also does some things poorly as a coach in mind mind but we've gone over that many times.

    My big concern is the evaluation and movement of players. DM goes way overboard praising up and pumping up players only to dump them relatively a short time later.

    Andre Sommersell
    Rosie Williams
    Ray Perryman
    Anthony Floyd
    Patrick Johnson
    Ricky Bell
    Gerald Dixon
    Keyou Craver

    All players that were pumped up big time by DM as being big finds or players that were going to really help, all cut after the bloom left the rose. Certainly some of them totally deserved to be let go but some of these are flat out misevaluations. (I read somewhere, though it was never confirmed that in the Ticat deal the cats wanted either Cody or Craver, we gave them Cody.)

    Reggie Durden
    Stevie Baggs
    Omar Morgan

    Players picked up with much fan fair (DM talked about how he wanted Baggs for a couple of years and tried to trade for him last year.) that have basically sucked.

    Canadians:

    Randy Spencer, resigned with the Esks for less than what he could have got elsewhere, cut in pre season.

    Jonathon Landon, trade a 2nd round pick for this guy, he never showed, we got nothing instead, unlike what we had to give Toronto for Carson not showing up.

    Jason Nedd - Supposidely ranked in the top 8 players in the draft by the Esks. Traded (and he looked bad in the preseason coverage wise)

    Jason Nugent - They talked about how they thought about picking him even ahead of Braidwood in that draft, he was that good. Traded for an import DL.

    Lime shoes Posteraro - Praised up before camp, he stunk.

    Diedrick and Dubuc - Finally got these guys after much fan fair. they lasted a couple of years without any real impact.

    No name QB that is signed as our #3 guy that gets good billing, cut after a week and looks terrible by all reports.

    Other strange moves - Montford and Brady...cut then brought back.

    Ebell, rookie of the year praised up big time. He says he's felling better than he has in weeks and he gets benched for the big Rider game.

    Players come and go and some work out and some don't. I don't expect every single transaction to work but the litany of changes over the past couple of years and the flavour of the day philosophy does not give me alot of confidence moving forward. DM and RL talk about us having a good nucleus now to go forward with but I forsee like last year a bunch of cuts in the offseason to bring in the new...latest...best former nfl player.

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    Floyd, Rosie, and Perryman are 3 guys that should still be here. Unfortunately, they are only 3 of a long list...

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      #3
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      Originally posted by Numberz View Post
      Floyd, Rosie, and Perryman are 3 guys that should still be here. Unfortunately, they are only 3 of a long list...
      The problem with Perryman was that he and Shabazz are nearly the same player. I can see the Esks not keeping him because he simply couldn't cover well enough.

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        He covered Stegall pretty well. Sure he was the second man, but he wasn't terrible. He was a pretty good blitzer too, we should have kept him.

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          Perryman struggled ALOT with covering. For a guy who was a free safety in the NFL you would think he would be able to cover receivers.
          Blindly accept whatever they do and if it doesn't work out, I guess there's always next year.

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            Originally posted by Beerfish View Post
            The problem with Perryman was that he and Shabazz are nearly the same player. I can see the Esks not keeping him because he simply couldn't cover well enough.
            Perryman also had a seperated shoulder - perhaps this had something to do with the desicion.

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              Perryman had not stood out. The D was better after he and Abdullah were let go.
              Taylor Field. You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious.

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                Originally posted by Touchdown Vaughn View Post
                Perryman had not stood out. The D was better after he and Abdullah were let go.
                Agreed, but that is my point. These guys won jobs in camp and just after camp and Perryman for one was talked up big time by DM. The players he thinks are great one day are deficient the next.

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                  Agreed, but that is my point. These guys won jobs in camp and just after camp and Perryman for one was talked up big time by DM. The players he thinks are great one day are deficient the next.
                  Even guys like Diesel who watched Perryman for most of the preseason and training camp said he looked great out there and deserved to be on the team where he was. So obviously this guy peaked in training camp which is unfortunate.
                  Blindly accept whatever they do and if it doesn't work out, I guess there's always next year.

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                    Originally posted by Sectionq View Post
                    Even guys like Diesel who watched Perryman for most of the preseason and training camp said he looked great out there and deserved to be on the team where he was. So obviously this guy peaked in training camp which is unfortunate.
                    The same thing with Durden earlier. A problem we have is having guys look great against our team in practice and previously in games but for some reason we don't realize other teams play WAY different than we do. Durden for example looked good in camp, why? Because he was agressive on the short stuff and never had to cover deep. Our coaches think, hey this guy is wonderful. Then we play teams like BC or Winnipeg or Regina that go deep alot and he gets killed.

                    Our coach and gm has to pick players that will play well against other teams, not our 5 yard play ball control offense.

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                      In there defence, Durden was an allstar for Montreal. What happened to him I don't know. But when you are getting a guy that was consistantly anallstar or very close to the top cover guy in the league as stated by his team and more importantly his peers. When the guy goes south as quick as Durden did, that to me is strange and I don't think it had anything to do with our scheme screwing him up. Every time I saw him play in Esks skins, he flat out couldn't cover anyone.
                      Blindly accept whatever they do and if it doesn't work out, I guess there's always next year.

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                        Originally posted by Beerfish View Post
                        Agreed, but that is my point. These guys won jobs in camp and just after camp and Perryman for one was talked up big time by DM. The players he thinks are great one day are deficient the next.
                        That's true, he certainly talks guys up and makes head scratching line up changes more than Higgins did. Higgins had his faults, but he seemed to understand who should be playing where and when. I know for one thing we always had a good d-line when Hig was here and that has now become a major weakness, especially the pass rush.
                        Taylor Field. You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious.

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                          Originally posted by Beerfish View Post
                          The same thing with Durden earlier. A problem we have is having guys look great against our team in practice and previously in games but for some reason we don't realize other teams play WAY different than we do. Durden for example looked good in camp, why? Because he was agressive on the short stuff and never had to cover deep. Our coaches think, hey this guy is wonderful. Then we play teams like BC or Winnipeg or Regina that go deep alot and he gets killed.

                          Our coach and gm has to pick players that will play well against other teams, not our 5 yard play ball control offense.
                          Our coaches seem incapable of assessing talent but more importantly they don't even know what to look for to fit their strategies.
                          Cripes. Is there not 1 football mind in the entire EE organization? If so, take off his muzzle!

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                            Originally posted by Sectionq View Post
                            In there defence, Durden was an allstar for Montreal. What happened to him I don't know. But when you are getting a guy that was consistantly anallstar or very close to the top cover guy in the league as stated by his team and more importantly his peers. When the guy goes south as quick as Durden did, that to me is strange and I don't think it had anything to do with our scheme screwing him up. Every time I saw him play in Esks skins, he flat out couldn't cover anyone.
                            You have to ask if someone is the "top cover guy" than why is a team letting him go? It is a danger in pursuing veteran players that may be past their best before date.

                            Maybe the Esks players have gotten too comfortable with their status on the team.

                            Since Buono has come to BC, he has always said in media interviews that he tells players that his job as GM is to find someone better than them at doing their job. Its sounds a bit cold, but it sets the tone that no one is going to get a free ride.

                            Witness the releases of Sam Young (2005 CFL west all-star) and Antonio Warren (16 TDs in 2005) early in 2006. Their replacements, Lavar Glover and Joe Smith, were big assets (Smith a key) in the 2006 cup run and in 2007.

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                              Originally posted by Sectionq View Post
                              In there defence, Durden was an allstar for Montreal. What happened to him I don't know. But when you are getting a guy that was consistantly anallstar or very close to the top cover guy in the league as stated by his team and more importantly his peers. When the guy goes south as quick as Durden did, that to me is strange and I don't think it had anything to do with our scheme screwing him up. Every time I saw him play in Esks skins, he flat out couldn't cover anyone.
                              Durden? Very simple. The Al's played the all out blitz defense on just about every play. DB's could afford to be very aggresive and not have to cover deep, at least not for long. Once he had to cover for a longer period of time he was toast.

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