Eskimos offence......

[pete]

Re: Eskimos offence......

Not trying to be a dick here but we are questioning the coaching technique of the # 1 team in our league ??

The biggest problems with our offence can not be nailed down to not being ready for the opposing defence here guys,, its failure to finnish or execute the plays they are given. Failures to hold on to perfectly made passes never mind ever grabbing the marginal ones. Our lack of a top notch RB's that can make more than 6 yards in an open field and not trip over their own shoes.. Thus giving the coaching staff more options/confidence for the run game. Get these issues sowed up and in my eyes,, we would be running one of the top O's in the league..

JMHO of course.

Has our gameplan in the Red Zone been tested by running it against a scout team D? Has our gameplan for 2nd and short or 3rd and 1 been tested by a scout team D? Doesn't that factor into execution? If they line up in a 3 down front have we practiced our pass protection and are we prepared to block up a blitz they prefer out of that look? Execution comes down to assignment, alignment and will. Assignments and alignments change based on the look you get from another team. That better be practiced against.

Are we the #1 TEAM or the #1 Offence?
No way that we can consider our O the best in the league. Therefore, it is logical to attempt a discussion/ objective look at whats wrong and what can be done better.
Did we have some injuries? Yup, can't do anything about that.
Did we struggle identifying a consistent FG kicker with range? Yup, EH got Whyte who has played excellently.
As an offence do we struggle early in games? Yup <- Can that be attributed to the fact that we don't run our game plan vs a scout team look? Probably. Is that an issue? Probably.

If the O wants to get better, and most agree that it does, then maybe we need to look at that game planning strategy.

[Esks1949]

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O line is definitely getting better week in and week out. In terms of your post and that we should have the D try to simulate the opposing D they will be facing i think they must be doing some of that. Maybe it's the CJ D against our O. It's an interesting question. The o tends to come out with good first drives. Right from the second drive it kind of stalls, but last game was pretty good. I'm seeing progress on the O. Could be because the O line is getting better. Even when Peyton Manning doesn't get at least 2 steamboats he turns into a bum. They should keep Whyte out there and just keep going i think it will work out in the end. At least that's what i'm hoping. Send Gregor an email. This sounds like a good question to ask CJ.

I've read of teams who played Mike Vick when he was at his peak and they would get a guy, (the 3rd string QB), to go out there and try to imitate Vick so they can have that experience of trying to shut down that type of a QB. I don't know if the Esks try to do anything similar to that. Let's say they don't. There still has to be some preparation for the unique characteristics the upcoming opponent must present. No?

[cmbuk]

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Has our gameplan in the Red Zone been tested by running it against a scout team D? Has our gameplan for 2nd and short or 3rd and 1 been tested by a scout team D? Doesn't that factor into execution? If they line up in a 3 down front have we practiced our pass protection and are we prepared to block up a blitz they prefer out of that look? Execution comes down to assignment, alignment and will. Assignments and alignments change based on the look you get from another team. That better be practiced against.

Are we the #1 TEAM or the #1 Offence?
No way that we can consider our O the best in the league. Therefore, it is logical to attempt a discussion/ objective look at whats wrong and what can be done better.
Did we have some injuries? Yup, can't do anything about that.
Did we struggle identifying a consistent FG kicker with range? Yup, EH got Whyte who has played excellently.
As an offence do we struggle early in games? Yup <- Can that be attributed to the fact that we don't run our game plan vs a scout team look? Probably. Is that an issue? Probably.

If the O wants to get better, and most agree that it does, then maybe we need to look at that game planning strategy.

Very well said..

outta rep dude..

[Nextyear]

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They will never play vs that D so why practice against it?! No one else runs the scheme CJ uses so why bother? Compare CJ's scheme to what Stubler is running. No comparison. Thats not exactly setting us up for success. I wonder if this is CJ's idea or McAdoos cuz I don't like it one bit. Your O needs timing and execution vs the scheme you will be playing as simulated by your scout team to be confident in the game plan. Not a fan of this.

I've always felt that if you are practicing against a defense that is not playing up to the level of the defense you will be facing it really doesn't matter much anyway. Our defense is different from any other defense but core concepts will be the same regardless. I'd rather be practicing against guys that are going to intercept any poor passes than guys who are not as good so you might get away with poor execution because you are going against a weaker defense. I'm sure that in practice CJ will call more plays that are representative of the type of defense they will be facing that week.

[Goldie-Lox]

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Not trying to be a dick here but we are questioning the coaching technique of the # 1 team in our league ??

The biggest problems with our offence can not be nailed down to not being ready for the opposing defence here guys,, its failure to finnish or execute the plays they are given. Failures to hold on to perfectly made passes never mind ever grabbing the marginal ones. Our lack of a top notch RB's that can make more than 6 yards in an open field and not trip over their own shoes.. Thus giving the coaching staff more options/confidence for the run game. Get these issues sowed up and in my eyes,, we would be running one of the top O's in the league..

JMHO of course.

I think you are right about the run game. Our offense had a lot less weapons last season, but Juan Blanco added another element that just opened things up. I think our offense was most effective when Reilly/White were running the read option together. It really did open up our passing game when we could get 7-8 yards on first down with the read. Nothing against the RBs we have now, I just don't think they are on Blanco's level.

[writfiler]

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I think you are right about the run game. Our offense had a lot less weapons last season, but Juan Blanco added another element that just opened things up. I think our offense was most effective when Reilly/White were running the read option together. It really did open up our passing game when we could get 7-8 yards on first down with the read. Nothing against the RBs we have now, I just don't think they are on Blanco's level.

If you have a sound offensive system, you should be able to plug in a different RB & get close to the same results....

[adb]

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I think you are right about the run game. Our offense had a lot less weapons last season, but Juan Blanco added another element that just opened things up. I think our offense was most effective when Reilly/White were running the read option together. It really did open up our passing game when we could get 7-8 yards on first down with the read. Nothing against the RBs we have now, I just don't think they are on Blanco's level.

Whatever the issue is personnel...scheme...play calling...I really believe that getting the running game going would go a long way in getting our offense back on track.

[Esks1949]

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Interesting comments by CJ on how they are preparing for the Lions.

http://www.esks.com/video/index/id/118239

[Goldie-Lox]

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I am beginning to develop a theory here on our offense.

Why is it when the game is on the line, we are able to move the ball quickly and efficiently down the field as compared to the rest of the game? I started paying attention quite a bit and if you notice in crunch time, it seems Reilly is taken off his leash. He is allowed to do exactly what makes him a great QB... improvising and running. When he is allowed to play his style of football, our offense moves well. I wonder if the coaching staff are calling conservatively to try and keep him healthy until the playoffs because without him we are sunk. Through out the game we rarely see Reilly running like he did last season and picking up huge yardage with his legs. It keeps defenses honest because they have to account for that and it opens up the passing game more. It also takes a lot of pressure off the offense because teams can't blitz like crazy... it also opens up Reilly to taking hits and potential injury. When the game is on the line though, either Reilly doesn't care what the couches say or they allow him to take the game into his own hands however he needs to.

It feels like we have been tying one hand behind Reilly's back since he came back with his running ability. I wonder when the playoffs come, if those reigns will be completely let go and we will see a much more potent offense where Reilly is free to run and add that dangerous element back to our arsenal because he would have all offseason to heal up if something happened.

What do you guys think?

[Esks4ever]

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I noticed during the game he remained in the pocket a lot, later in the game when it was do or die, he was moving the pocket around much more

[Jtuck09]

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I noticed during the game he remained in the pocket a lot, later in the game when it was do or die, he was moving the pocket around much more

Which is how the offense should be for him. He's a much better QB when he's on the move.

McAdoo is a useless coordinator. I don't know how someone will argue that point with me but he's useless. His play calling is STILL atrocious.

[pete]

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Just throwing this name out there..... Jason Maas... He's done great things in Ottawa this year.

[Eskie54]

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Just throwing this name out there..... Jason Maas... He's done great things in Ottawa this year.

Yeah, but does he want to move?

[tigerdar]

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Just throwing this name out there..... Jason Maas... He's done great things in Ottawa this year.

Maas' next stop will be as a head coach somewhere

[Beerfish]

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Maas' next stop will be as a head coach somewhere

Agreed, no lateral move for him i would think and Ottawa will look to lock him up for more money right now if they are smart.

As for the Esks offense, we seem to be in an either or mode. If our Qb is making some bad decisions we have turnovers and can't finish things off. If the Qb is spot on we have games where the receivers drop some very key passes.

If the Esks offense actually puts their game together to go along with our consistent D we will crush a lot of teams.