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    Edmonton Sun Article Re: Lack of TDS

    In the dread zone
    Eskimos scratching heads as touchdowns have become scarce

    By DEREK VAN DIEST, EDMONTON SUN




    According to Edmonton Eskimos head coach Danny Maciocia, it should be easier.

    Yet, offensively, nothing has been easy for the club this season.

    And down inside their opponents' 20-yard line is where it has been toughest for the defending Grey Cup champions.

    "It wouldn't surprise me if this weekend we bring just one play when we get inside the 20," Maciocia said yesterday. "It's reached that point where we have to find a way to get that football into the end zone."

    The Eskimos began preparing for the B.C. Lions yesterday. The two teams meet in Vancouver on Friday night.



    INABILITY TO CONVERT

    One of the Eskimos' biggest concerns heading into the contest has been their inability to convert when they get into the red zone.

    "When you get inside the 20, in my opinion, it should be easier, because there are only so many things you can do defensively," said Maciocia.

    "You can't have the attitude - where we're going to bend but not break - because you're running out of real estate, you can't afford to bend any more.

    "It should get easier, but in our case, it's getting more difficult.

    "I don't know whether we're over-thinking when we're down there. I don't know if it's the fact that we're getting down there and saying to ourselves 'We have to score,' instead of doing the things that we naturally do to get down there."

    The Eskimos have scored fewer points than any other team in the CFL so far this season. However, they have the most yards passing, most completed passes and best completion percentage in the league.

    Ricky Ray is the only quarterback in the league to have thrown for more than 2,000 yards this year. And he's averaging a league-best 9.1 yards per completion.

    So what's the deal?

    "We just have to be more aggressive down there," said Ray of converting in the red zone. "We have to continue to mix things up. I think we've been too worried about getting too many completions, picking up yards and staying out of second and long that we've gotten too conservative."

    Last week against Montreal, the Eskimos were only able to score one touchdown.

    This despite earning over 300 yards on offence.

    "Defences right now, I don't even think they have to line up when we get inside the 20," Maciocia said. "We could go up against air and we may not complete the ball. Or we might get a false start up front."

    Inopportune penalties have hurt the Eskimos this season on both sides of the ball. But defensively, the Eskimos are playing well enough to win. They've allowed the fewest points in the West this season.

    LACK OF OFFENCE HAS ESKS AT 2-4

    The lack of offence is the reason the Eskimos are 2-4 and at the bottom of the West standings.

    "We're competing. The last two weeks we've competed and we've competed quite hard," Maciocia said. "But when we get to certain areas of the field, I almost feel like we should just have the quarterback draw up a play on the ground.

    "That's our problem right now. We're going to have to find a way to shorten the field even at practice and work down there. The other thing that you have to be careful of, is if you bang and bang away at it real hard, mentally it's going to take its toll."

    While their lack of offensive production is a concern, the Eskimos believe they have the tools to turn things around. For them, it's a matter of going out there and playing with confidence.

    "I think we've kind of got conservative on first down a little bit," Ray said. "We're trying to get our passing game to replace our running game and are throwing underneath quite a bit. It hasn't been working for us. We need to stretch the field a little bit more, run the ball when we need to, and take some shots."

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    Re: Edmonton Sun Article Re: Lack of TDS

    Originally posted by Esks4ever
    "We're trying to get our passing game to replace our running game and are throwing underneath quite a bit. It hasn't been working for us. We need to stretch the field a little bit more, run the ball when we need to, and take some shots."
    Shocking.

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      #3
      Re: Edmonton Sun Article Re: Lack of TDS

      "We just have to be more aggressive down there," said Ray of converting in the red zone. "We have to continue to mix things up. I think we've been too worried about getting too many completions, picking up yards and staying out of second and long that we've gotten too conservative."
      No kidding.

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        Re: Edmonton Sun Article Re: Lack of TDS

        "I think we've kind of got conservative on first down a little bit," Ray said. "We're trying to get our passing game to replace our running game and are throwing underneath quite a bit. It hasn't been working for us. We need to stretch the field a little bit more, run the ball when we need to, and take some shots."

        It's a revelation....praise the lord!

        Three additional things that have really hurt our point production.

        - We take so many penalties.
        - We are dead last in giveaway/takeaway ratio. The defense is forcing almost no turnovers.
        - Poor production from our return game.

        The thing about our short passing game, with a small adjustment I think we could be way more productive. If we gained 9-11 yards per play on our short passes rather than 3-7 we'd not need 15 play drives to score.

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          #5
          Re: Edmonton Sun Article Re: Lack of TDS

          its nice they can see the problem.. how abouts they FIX it

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            Re: Edmonton Sun Article Re: Lack of TDS

            WOW, the Esks have nothing but einsteins on their team. "need to run the ball", "need to stretch the field more" "too conservative". WOW!!
            It took them to week 8 to figure that out? Were we not having this same conversation last season and then they trade for Davis, start running the ball and we win the freaking grey cup.
            Unbelievable!!!
            Blindly accept whatever they do and if it doesn't work out, I guess there's always next year.

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              #7
              Re: Edmonton Sun Article Re: Lack of TDS

              Part of this whole problem leads back to the O-line of last year. Ray was getting smacked on darn near every play, especially if he had to look downfield a bit. Thus the offense morphed into getting rid of the ball quick and lookign for the outlet quicker. The one thing we can expect if we go down field more is more sacks and more scrutiny of the o-line.

              Ray has shown he can go deep arm wise but his throws are a bit inconsistent. Some are overthrown, some underthrown. (The int by the Winnipeg guy late in that game was underthrown, Hervey was behind the db.)

              I'll say one thing, we had guys open deep alot against Montreal (as in wide open), we just never made the read or the throw.

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                #8
                Re: Edmonton Sun Article Re: Lack of TDS

                Originally posted by Sectionq
                WOW, the Esks have nothing but einsteins on their team. "need to run the ball", "need to stretch the field more" "too conservative". WOW!!
                It took them to week 8 to figure that out? Were we not having this same conversation last season and then they trade for Davis, start running the ball and we win the freaking grey cup.
                Unbelievable!!!

                so what RB we trading for this season? Corey Holmes? Ranek? who ?

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                  #9
                  Re: Edmonton Sun Article Re: Lack of TDS

                  The CFL is a big play league, always has been, always will be. The rules and especially the field are designed for big plays. You have to go down field. Even if you don't make it, you still have to have that in the defences mind. You throw those 7 yard hooks, 5, 6, 7 times in a row, then when the DB starts to cheat a bit, AND THEY WILL, you throw it long over his head. This isn't rocket science here. When I was 13 and playing touch football against my uncles and dad, we used to do that and it worked. My highschool football team did that and it worked too. We don't have 4 downs to grind out first downs like in the NFL.
                  Everytime I hear a Esks coach of offensive player talk about how they were "taking what the defence gave them" I just want to reach out and choke them. I thought the goal of every offence was to try to play their game plan and make the defence try to adjust to them? If the defence is keying on something and taking it away, absolutely as an offence you adjust, but you dont make the freaking adjustment after the first series.
                  Blindly accept whatever they do and if it doesn't work out, I guess there's always next year.

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                    #10
                    Re: Edmonton Sun Article Re: Lack of TDS

                    so what RB we trading for this season? Corey Holmes? Ranek? who ?
                    No kidding. We got one of the best backs in the league, do we start blaming him because he isnt running for 50 yards a carry on the 5 touches he gets a game.
                    Blindly accept whatever they do and if it doesn't work out, I guess there's always next year.

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                      #11
                      Re: Edmonton Sun Article Re: Lack of TDS

                      Shocking, they know what the problem is yet DM only uses 3 plays all game. Hmm maybe time for him to learn how to coach and get some new plays or open the book past page 1. I am sure that there are pictures for his unintillectual mind to comprehend. We have the offensive team to score 40 plus points a game, I think RR has to be aloud to call his own plays, screw the coaches, maybe just do it anyways. What are they going to do bench him? They won't even do that when we are losing and need a boost on offense.
                      Through the thick and the Thin I will bleed GREEN and GOLD.

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                        #12
                        Re: Edmonton Sun Article Re: Lack of TDS

                        Poor production from our return game
                        I think this aspect of the game is being overshadowed quite a bit by the lack of production by the offence.

                        TT is not being allowed any decent returns this year, and that is not helping the offense either.
                        Long live the B.O.N.E.

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                          #13
                          Re: Edmonton Sun Article Re: Lack of TDS

                          I think RR has to be aloud to call his own plays, screw the coaches, maybe just do it anyways. What are they going to do bench him?
                          No kidding. I wonder what would happen if RR started calling his own plays and they pumped in 3 TD's in 3 straight series. I would love to hear the press conference

                          Reporter: DM, RR lead 3 straight TD drives in the first quarter but you benched him for remaining 3 quarters and lost 22-21, why did you do that?
                          DM: Well RR decided that he wasnt going to call the plays we signalled in so I had to decipline him
                          Report: BUt RR's plays all worked, you had a 21 point lead, then didnt score a single point after, that makes no sense
                          DM: well RR didnt call the plays I told him to run
                          Reporter: But RR ran all the plays you told him to run the first 6 games and you are a 2-4 record and couldnt score more than 15 points in an entire game, so obviously what you were calling wasnt working and he took it upon himself to change it up and it worked. SO again I ask you, why would you pull him when things he was calling were working
                          DMpouting now, tissue in his hand): well RR didnt call the plays I told him to run
                          Report: But for the past 6 games the offence.. (cut off)
                          DMputting his fingers in his ears, closing his eyes, stomping his feet and yelling ): im the head coach, im the head coach, im the head coach (drops into the fetal position sucking his thumb)
                          Blindly accept whatever they do and if it doesn't work out, I guess there's always next year.

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                              #15
                              Re: Edmonton Sun Article Re: Lack of TDS

                              That's funny
                              Hope, at the end of the day connects us all, no matter how different we are

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