Conservatives Attempt to Bankrupt the Opposition! Another Election Coming??

[Muley69]

Re: Conservatives Attempt to Bankrupt the Opposition! Another Election Coming??

1. I am a Conservative supporter.

But what Steven Harper did was just sheer idiocy that I cannot stomach it. There is a time and place for political gamesmenship... But do to announce it in an "economic update" when this country (and the world) is facing the worst recession (just wait til Oct - Dec stats come out, folks) since the Great Depression is just plain RETARDED

The Conservatives had better can his ass to the next plane back to Calgary because of the stupidity of his move.


Having said that


2. There is a time and place for politics, and if you REALLY believe that this "coalition" is anything BUT political gamesmenship, then you have your head shoved so far up your ass it's a wonder you can breathe or see anything.

If the NDP and the Liberals, by themselves, had enough seats to pull this off them my temper would be slightly abated.

But that these sons of bitches have given the BLOC QUEBECOIS - a separatist party -- the balance of power to lord over this country is completely, and utterly, inexcusable.

Don't let the "fact" that a Bloc MP isn't a minister fool you...they don't want to have a Ministry (since Minstry's apply for all of Canada anyway, which they aren't interested it but I digress), but they will get ALL the perks of this entire arrangement by making Layton / Dion dance like puppets on strings in the background, without a single Bloc MP having to be accountable for anything.


3. Dion is the FAILED LEADER of a EMBARRASSED party from the last election. Every single Liberal MP had their whetting stones out, sharpening their knives, and stumbling all over themselves to be the first to drive it into the back of their lame duck leader.

And now, today, he has been annointed as leader of this coalition. You want to talk about no mandate to govern -- THE GUY WAS RESIGNING. Oops...now that I am going to be the Prime Minister, I guess I'll hold off a bit!

And Taliban Jack... For him, this is about as close as he comes to being the Prime Minister as he'll EVER get. It's like he's the fat kid in high school that claims to have lost their virginity, when really all that happened is he spied the school's quarterback rail the head cheerleader through a peephole in the change room.

4. Who brokered this deal? Well despite the legality of how the information was gained, it's clear that Jack "Closet Separatist" Layton was in bed with Duceppe for months now.

And who arranged the deal with the Liberals? One Mr. Jean "I think I'm the King of Canada" Chretein and former NDP Leader Ed Broad Bent.

As in...TWO PEOPLE COMPLETELY OPERATING WITH NO AUTHORITY OF ANY Canadian


Right now I feel like fleeing to a Banana Republic. Because THAT WAY I'll at least be familiar with the style of Government.




Finally, I see that I stand corrected on the reversal of the tax cuts. Don't want to be confused of pushing an agenda.

[quake]

Re: Conservatives Attempt to Bankrupt the Opposition! Another Election Coming??

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In the current system, people have allegiances to the party, and will vote for the candidate whoever they are as long as they represent the party. The candidate will then become more like the stereotypical member of the party. You get more extreme candidates, sheep to their party, and the current system. It clouds the system, MPs should be nothing more than a time-saver. Instead of everyone voting on every single issue, we elect a person who represents our beliefs and acts on our behalf. That's what democracy is all about, but it's not what we have, it's only what we have in theory.

Every piece of legislation is a free vote and you vote because you think it's what's best for Canada. Not because your party leader says so.

[Spectacle]

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You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Muley69 again

[Traxy]

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Thank you for this rational post. If we take out the Bloc, Liberals and the NDP then the Conservatives have an overwhelming majority. I believe that is close to forming a dictatorship but maybe I'm wrong.

What is this force to which you are referring? Democracy?

How about this...the Conservatives won the majority of seats that DIDN'T vote separatist.

Among the people who give a rats ass about Canada, they have a majority.

[glenvb]

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The Government sets the agenda of the House. If they so choose, procedurally, they can adjourn Parliament, end the current session and set the return date.

As much as the Cons turn my stomach sometimes, this is what I hope they'll do.

[Numberz]

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How about this...the Conservatives won the majority of seats that DIDN'T vote separatist.

Among the people who give a rats ass about Canada, they have a majority.

Why does being separatist or not make a difference? Last I checked they haven't separated yet and are still Canadians.

[Sgt. Nuke]

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Nonsense. It has to do with two things. The first you are totally correct about, the Libs want power, just as the NDP, the greens and the Cons would want power.

The 2nd reason is that the Cons have once again tried to ram through things that were not going to be palatable to the other parties and for some reason they don't realize what it means to be a minority government. When you are in a minority government you can still get a fair bit done as long as you don't outright try to piss off the other parties. The PC's have done a tremendous job of pissing off the other parties.

On to the stimulus package and our impending deficiet. One more reason to be extremely upset at the moronic rules of deregulation, the morons at the top like Greenspan who actually thought the jokers wouldn't hang themselves if given enough rope and the greedy *******s in the banking industry down south.

Canada's banks supposidely have decent regulations. Canadas governments are for the most part acting fiscally responsible. And we still get it up the ass.

You're probably paying 4% on your home equity line of credit. Talk to me about getting it up the ass?

[earl2]

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I'm p!ssed beyond belief that the NDP and Liberals have so little regard for our democratic processes.

I honestly feel that this "coup" is a slap in the face to all those who have ever cast a vote in this country, and moreso, to anyone who's ever served in the Canadian military (and sacrificed more than we can ever imagine) in order to preserve and protect democracy in Canada and across the world.

I swear to God, I don't know how Dion and Layton could look themselves in the mirror.

I've never been ashamed to be Canadian, but my God, this is pushing me closer to that point than I've ever been before.

[Nanookster]

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Gotta love the Conservative Reform Alliance Party. Taping conversations between other political parties... yet another step along the path to one-party rule. I guess it's not unethical if they do it?

Unethical? The baffoons accidently included a conservative in a conference call and he taped it? How is that unethical?

The fact that they planned this well before the budget and it has now been revealed shows who the unethical people in all of this are.

These clowns want to run the country and they can't even put together a secure conference call while planning the coup?

It wasn't espionage as you suggest, they included the conservative member in the conference call and he taped it.

[Nanookster]

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Hopefully the NDP and Libs get new leaders as well.

No, I hope those idiots stay in charge forever.

[MookieFan]

Re: Conservatives Attempt to Bankrupt the Opposition! Another Election Coming??

I'm p!ssed beyond belief that the NDP and Liberals have so little regard for our democratic processes.

I honestly feel that this "coup" is a slap in the face to all those who have ever cast a vote in this country, and moreso, to anyone who's ever served in the Canadian military (and sacrificed more than we can ever imagine) in order to preserve and protect democracy in Canada and across the world.

I swear to God, I don't know how Dion and Layton could look themselves in the mirror.

I've never been ashamed to be Canadian, but my God, this is pushing me closer to that point than I've ever been before.

Why are you ashamed to be Canadian? It is democracy in action. Harper has lost the confidence of the house and now GG will ask the leader of the opposition, the man who has fought for the unity of Canada, Mr. Dion to be the next PM. After all only 36 percent of Canadians voted for Harper. And not very many in my current city of Toronto.

[Nanookster]

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Oh, gimme a break. If this happens, it won't have been the first time, and it won't have big dramatic effects. Three different parties won't be able to work together well enough to screw this nation up to the point of irreversible damage. The other two parties are so inexperienced that the second they take office the Libs will basically have control and will run it like every other time they've been in power....nothing crazy, a little corruption, but what else is new in the world of politics? The economy will kill them, we'll have yet another election, and then we'll have a majority. End of story, everything back to normal. The only thing we have to fear is fear itself.

It will be a first time.

And if they are so concerned with the economy look at what they did to the stock market today.

[Nanookster]

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The Liberals had a coalition government with the NDP in the early 1970's. And the opposition took down the government and attempted to form a government once before in canadian history. Didn't work out too well. GG called an election.

And this coalition planned there partnership over a span of four months.

The current coalition put together their plan to run our country over a span of 3 days. How could the GG say this is a viable option for government?

[Nanookster]

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Something I did not know

All 3 coup leaders were born in Quebec. Just saying.

So when they are shot for treason we can bury them there too.

[Nanookster]

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That being said, I don't know why people keep thinking the sky is falling just because the NDP would be in power in a coalition government. I voted for them, and checked our their platform before voting for them.

Man, I wouldn't tell too many people you voted for the Communist Party of Canada. But I figured all along you were a commie.

I just watched a bit on CBC where stock analysts said our economy was going to take a huge hit with socialist leader Layton being even in partial control of the country.