Quinton Porter Released...

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You have to wonder if that ankle will ever properly heal or will it be a constant source of problems for him throughout his career.

U won't know till he tries to actually 'play ' on it

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I was thinking that myself...there are certain injuries that it doesn't matter who you are...something's gonna give. Matt's ankle is a perfect example.

Absolutely..
He may be unlucky and it's an injury he can never come back from..

I think however he will.. And doctors and physios work bloody wonders these days..

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I would bring in Reilly and have him and Nichols battle it out during TC and the whole year if needed. Keep Masoli as #3...or Joseph for all I care as long as he's #3.

Chances are the loser of that QB battle will end up in Ottawa.

This is fair as long as Reilly isn't just deemed starter cos he earns starters money.. That's my fear..

[Angelus]

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This is fair as long as Reilly isn't just deemed starter cos he earns starters money.. That's my fear..

I think that's an irrational fear. Alex Smith earns starters money. So does Luongo.

He who performs best will start.

[boydo]

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Now that Tillman (patooie!) is gone and Swerve is in charge...I see a lot more accountability in case we do make some player screw ups. ie - Getting a high paid FA that turns out to be a dud...so if we do go after Reiley and he costs a lot...and stinks up the joint because of different system or whatever reason - he's not going to be the starter because we paid an arm and a leg for him. He'll sit and our next best option will be put in. I worry that Lulay's backup could be a flash in the pan and that's only because we've barely seen him in action. In a perfect world we wouldn't have to worry about who our starter is going to be because of being thin in the talent department. If anything I'd like to see us having too many viable options to choose from. With J&J still on our roster...that ain't gonna happen though. I still maintain that Porter never did get a fair shake and could do well. If I'm wrong I'll be the first to admit it but at this point it's not like we have to trade to get him here. Pick him up, show Jyles the f'ing door already and move on.
Jyles is a distraction and a reminder of the most colossal f*ck up in Tillman's (hock tooey) legacy and I'd love to see him gone. Nice guy and all...just a waste of a roster spot in my mind.

[Rayminator]

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I'd say he might make a passable 3rd stringer for a couple of seasons....he'd probably still be an upgrade in the position from Joseph....no harm in bringing him into camp for a look.

I've said it before and I'll say it again - Esks should be bringing in a long, long list of QBs to camp....the more the merrier.

[GreatWhiteNorth]

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I would bring in Reilly and have him and Nichols battle it out during TC and the whole year if needed. Keep Masoli as #3...or Joseph for all I care as long as he's #3.

Chances are the loser of that QB battle will end up in Ottawa.

Also. Flip the coin..
Ur putting an awful lot of confidence in a guy that started 2 games in bc and who Ur gonna likely have to spend upwards on 175k to get..

I'm with Ang... this is as much about finding our next starter as it is about positioning ourselves for the expansion draft. Let's face it, both Nichols and Reilly have shown flashes, but neither has shown enough to be a lock as a future star. The competition of the two guys, with similar backgrounds, at similar stages in their CFL development should be a positive thing if it comes about, and it would give us a year to figure out who we want for the future.

I don't care what either of them costs as long as the contract wouldn't be an impediment to making either of them attractive to Ottawa. Most teams in the league are going to be paying much more for their QB situation than Edmonton would be, even if we were paying both Nichols and Reilly at $200K + incentives.

The structure of the expansion draft makes it quite beneficial to lose a QB or import Kicker in the first round... all the more so if it isn't a guy that you even have on your roster right now. Not only do you forego losing another import in that first round (the guy that would've been chosen instead of the QB), but you also get to protect 2 more NIs in the second round, and you no longer need to protect your kicker in the second round, meaning we're actually getting to protect 3-4 more NIs because we won't have to use up spots on Shaw and McKnight.

Let's just say, for the sake of argument, that if limited to protecting 6 NIs you had Wojt, Rottier, Mitchell, Coehoorn, Chambers and Shaw (representing key pieces and high draft picks). You're exposing Messam, Alexander, Laurent, Oramasionwu, Pasztor, O'Donnell, Koch and others. I think that there is IMMENSE value in being able to protect another three of those guys by losing a QB a round earlier.

You get value in the competition for the starting role. You get value in not losing a different solid import player. You get value in being able to mitigate your NI loss. The only real risk is that either someone else emerges at QB that catches Ottawa's eye, or you have an injury to one of the QBs that doesn't make them something Ottawa would look at... in which case, you'll be glad to have the other one as your own insurance policy hopefully.

To me it's a no-brainer to pursue Reilly hard if he exhausts NFL opportunities, and its the same reason why you explore things with McPherson if Reilly does get a bite down south. (For Ang's benefit - I include McPherson, because he's the next most likely of the existing backups to attract attention from Ottawa)

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(For Ang's benefit - I include McPherson, because he's the next most likely of the existing backups to attract attention from Ottawa)

I think Calgary's tandem of either Tate or Mitchell and Toronto protecting Ray and leaving Collaros unprotected might be another option for Ottawa to go; If we DO pick up Reilly, we had best play BOTH him and Nichols and "showcase" them a bit to make them more attractive. I don't think that Macpherson will be someone that Ottawa goes after necessarily.

[Angelus]

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My prediction is that Drew Tate is the starting QB for Ottawa in 2014.

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My prediction is that Drew Tate is the starting QB for Ottawa in 2014.

That's bold mate!!!!

I applaud u hanging your hat early like that..

[GreatWhiteNorth]

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I think Calgary's tandem of either Tate or Mitchell and Toronto protecting Ray and leaving Collaros unprotected might be another option for Ottawa to go; If we DO pick up Reilly, we had best play BOTH him and Nichols and "showcase" them a bit to make them more attractive. I don't think that Macpherson will be someone that Ottawa goes after necessarily.

A lot will depend on the GM I would expect. If it's Desjardins, a guy that has been up close with McPherson, it could help him or hurt him depending on what he's shown over their time together.

I agree that Cgy's QB situation will likely have some impact, and I think Ottawa won't necessarily be looking for two potential starters, but rather guys that will complement each other and possibly form some sort of progression.

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My prediction is that Drew Tate is the starting QB for Ottawa in 2014.

That would actually be a fun poll to make being so far in the future.

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My prediction is that Drew Tate is the starting QB for Ottawa in 2014.

You're not the only one making that prediction. Many around the Stampeders sites have heard that Calgary would protect Bo-Levi over Tate in 2014...

[56Parkies]

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A lot will depend on the GM I would expect. If it's Desjardins, a guy that has been up close with McPherson, it could help him or hurt him depending on what he's shown over their time together.

I agree that Cgy's QB situation will likely have some impact, and I think Ottawa won't necessarily be looking for two potential starters, but rather guys that will complement each other and possibly form some sort of progression.

Very true, however that's a huge gamble if you are picking him up with the idea Ottawa MAY take him. I'd rather go for someone either new and hope you could make him attractive to Ottawa (who's to say they wouldn't like Masoli?? Or a new QB we pick up, a la Mitchell) or try hard for Reilly as he'd likely be a more interesting pick for the new Ottawa team

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A lot will depend on the GM I would expect. If it's Desjardins, a guy that has been up close with McPherson, it could help him or hurt him depending on what he's shown over their time together.

I agree that Cgy's QB situation will likely have some impact, and I think Ottawa won't necessarily be looking for two potential starters, but rather guys that will complement each other and possibly form some sort of progression.

Is there a limit on the number of QBs Ottawa can select in the first round and if there isn't is there a significant downside to them selecting say 3 QBs...for example if both our QBs and Calgary's show some ability what's stopping Ottawa from taking the QBs we don't protect (for argument's sake let's say they grab Reily - assuming we sign him - from us and Mitchell from Calgary) and then grab another QB from some other team say a McPherson or someone like that. Just wondering about that and the one name I'm not hearing in this QB carousel is Kevin Glenn...wonder if he could fall into the mix somehow.

In any event I'm of the opinion that you bring in as many viable candidates as you can and pay them what you need to...it would only be for a season after which you cut who you need to cut...and you play the QB that earns the game time...with the new EH/KR regime I really think we've seen the end of guys who are being paid the most get the reps...IMO that would be asinine and EH/KR do not strike me as being asinine.