Quinton Porter Released...

[56Parkies]

Re: Quinton Porter Released...

Is there a limit on the number of QBs Ottawa can select in the first round and if there isn't is there a significant downside to them selecting say 3 QBs...for example if both our QBs and Calgary's show some ability what's stopping Ottawa from taking the QBs we don't protect (for argument's sake let's say they grab Reily - assuming we sign him - from us and Mitchell from Calgary) and then grab another QB from some other team say a McPherson or someone like that. Just wondering about that and the one name I'm not hearing in this QB carousel is Kevin Glenn...wonder if he could fall into the mix somehow.

In any event I'm of the opinion that you bring in as many viable candidates as you can and pay them what you need to...it would only be for a season after which you cut who you need to cut...and you play the QB that earns the game time...with the new EH/KR regime I really think we've seen the end of guys who are being paid the most get the reps...IMO that would be asinine and EH/KR do not strike me as being asinine.

They're allowed to select 2 QBs, and once a QB (or kicker) is selected, they can't pick any other imports from that team (obviously).

[danlaurin]

Re: Quinton Porter Released...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013_CFL_Expansion_Draft

he 2013 Canadian Football League Expansion Draft is a three-round CFL draft scheduled to take place on December 12, 2013. It is designed to assign players from existing CFL teams to the expansion franchise in Ottawa, Ontario. The structure of the draft was announced on January 19, 2011, which described one round for selecting import players and two rounds for selecting non-import players. Additionally, if the Ottawa franchise begins play in 2014, they will be given the last pick in each of the first four rounds of the 2013 CFL Draft and the first pick in every round of the 2014 CFL Draft. The draft is tentatively scheduled because Ottawa's status as a franchise in 2014 is still conditional upon the completion of Frank Clair Stadium.

Rules of the Draft

Ottawa will select three players from each of the eight existing teams for a total of 24 players. Ottawa will select eight import players and 16 non-import players with quarterbacks, kickers and punters eligible within their respective import/non-import categories. Ottawa will be able to select a maximum of two quarterbacks and one kicker/punter, but they may not select any of these three players from the same team. The CFL Commissioner will resolve any dispute related to player eligibility for the Expansion Draft process.

Round one: Import Draft

Existing teams may protect one quarterback and ten additional import players, while only being able to select, at maximum, two quarterbacks in the draft. If a quarterback is selected from a team, that team may protect an additional two non-import players in the first round of the Non-Import Draft. If a kicker or punter is selected from a team, that team may protect one additional non-import player in the first round of the Non-Import Draft. Ottawa will select one import player from each existing team in this round.

Round two: Non-Import Draft

Existing teams may protect six total non-import players, including the team's one protected quarterback and one protected kicker/punter. If a quarterback was selected in the Import Draft, eight total non-import players may be protected. If a kicker or punter was selected in the Import Draft, seven total non-import players may be protected. If a non-import kicker or punter is to be selected, it must be done in this round and, if so, that team will be able to protect an additional two non-import players in the second round of the Non-Import Draft. Ottawa will select one non-import player from each existing team in this round.

Round three: Non-Import Draft

Existing teams may protect six more non-import players in addition to those that were protected in the second round. If a kicker or punter was selected in the Non-Import Draft, eight more non-import players may be protected. Ottawa will select one non-import player from each existing team in this round.

Hope this helps

[pizmo]

Re: Quinton Porter Released...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013_CFL_Expansion_Draft

he 2013 Canadian Football League Expansion Draft is a three-round CFL draft scheduled to take place on December 12, 2013. It is designed to assign players from existing CFL teams to the expansion franchise in Ottawa, Ontario. The structure of the draft was announced on January 19, 2011, which described one round for selecting import players and two rounds for selecting non-import players. Additionally, if the Ottawa franchise begins play in 2014, they will be given the last pick in each of the first four rounds of the 2013 CFL Draft and the first pick in every round of the 2014 CFL Draft. The draft is tentatively scheduled because Ottawa's status as a franchise in 2014 is still conditional upon the completion of Frank Clair Stadium.

Rules of the Draft

Ottawa will select three players from each of the eight existing teams for a total of 24 players. Ottawa will select eight import players and 16 non-import players with quarterbacks, kickers and punters eligible within their respective import/non-import categories. Ottawa will be able to select a maximum of two quarterbacks and one kicker/punter, but they may not select any of these three players from the same team. The CFL Commissioner will resolve any dispute related to player eligibility for the Expansion Draft process.

Round one: Import Draft

Existing teams may protect one quarterback and ten additional import players, while only being able to select, at maximum, two quarterbacks in the draft. If a quarterback is selected from a team, that team may protect an additional two non-import players in the first round of the Non-Import Draft. If a kicker or punter is selected from a team, that team may protect one additional non-import player in the first round of the Non-Import Draft. Ottawa will select one import player from each existing team in this round.

Round two: Non-Import Draft

Existing teams may protect six total non-import players, including the team's one protected quarterback and one protected kicker/punter. If a quarterback was selected in the Import Draft, eight total non-import players may be protected. If a kicker or punter was selected in the Import Draft, seven total non-import players may be protected. If a non-import kicker or punter is to be selected, it must be done in this round and, if so, that team will be able to protect an additional two non-import players in the second round of the Non-Import Draft. Ottawa will select one non-import player from each existing team in this round.

Round three: Non-Import Draft

Existing teams may protect six more non-import players in addition to those that were protected in the second round. If a kicker or punter was selected in the Non-Import Draft, eight more non-import players may be protected. Ottawa will select one non-import player from each existing team in this round.

Hope this helps

Wut?

[GreatWhiteNorth]

Re: Quinton Porter Released...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013_CFL_Expansion_Draft

he 2013 Canadian Football League Expansion Draft is a three-round CFL draft scheduled to take place on December 12, 2013. It is designed to assign players from existing CFL teams to the expansion franchise in Ottawa, Ontario. The structure of the draft was announced on January 19, 2011, which described one round for selecting import players and two rounds for selecting non-import players. Additionally, if the Ottawa franchise begins play in 2014, they will be given the last pick in each of the first four rounds of the 2013 CFL Draft and the first pick in every round of the 2014 CFL Draft. The draft is tentatively scheduled because Ottawa's status as a franchise in 2014 is still conditional upon the completion of Frank Clair Stadium.

Rules of the Draft

Ottawa will select three players from each of the eight existing teams for a total of 24 players. Ottawa will select eight import players and 16 non-import players with quarterbacks, kickers and punters eligible within their respective import/non-import categories. Ottawa will be able to select a maximum of two quarterbacks and one kicker/punter, but they may not select any of these three players from the same team. The CFL Commissioner will resolve any dispute related to player eligibility for the Expansion Draft process.

Round one: Import Draft

Existing teams may protect one quarterback and ten additional import players, while only being able to select, at maximum, two quarterbacks in the draft. If a quarterback is selected from a team, that team may protect an additional two non-import players in the first round of the Non-Import Draft. If a kicker or punter is selected from a team, that team may protect one additional non-import player in the first round of the Non-Import Draft. Ottawa will select one import player from each existing team in this round.

Round two: Non-Import Draft

Existing teams may protect six total non-import players, including the team's one protected quarterback and one protected kicker/punter. If a quarterback was selected in the Import Draft, eight total non-import players may be protected. If a kicker or punter was selected in the Import Draft, seven total non-import players may be protected. If a non-import kicker or punter is to be selected, it must be done in this round and, if so, that team will be able to protect an additional two non-import players in the second round of the Non-Import Draft. Ottawa will select one non-import player from each existing team in this round.

Round three: Non-Import Draft

Existing teams may protect six more non-import players in addition to those that were protected in the second round. If a kicker or punter was selected in the Non-Import Draft, eight more non-import players may be protected. Ottawa will select one non-import player from each existing team in this round.

Hope this helps

Wut?

Try just the bolded.

[Hugoagogo]

Re: Quinton Porter Released...

Thanks for the info GWN. Just wondering, if say the Esks have a player becoming a free agent Feb '14, and Ottawa drafts him in Dec '13, would the Esks have the ability to sign him as a free agent a couple of months later if he doesn't sign a new contract with Ottawa prior?

[GreatWhiteNorth]

Re: Quinton Porter Released...

Thanks for the info GWN. Just wondering, if say the Esks have a player becoming a free agent Feb '14, and Ottawa drafts him in Dec '13, would the Esks have the ability to sign him as a free agent a couple of months later if he doesn't sign a new contract with Ottawa prior?

I believe that they would. I think, in that case, Ottawa would just be drafting the negotiating rights until the contract expired. Ottawa would certainly want to be pretty gun-shy about signing players that were destined for free agency... something that could be worked into teams' strategies leading up to this.

[HFXTC]

Re: Quinton Porter Released...

Thanks for the info GWN. Just wondering, if say the Esks have a player becoming a free agent Feb '14, and Ottawa drafts him in Dec '13, would the Esks have the ability to sign him as a free agent a couple of months later if he doesn't sign a new contract with Ottawa prior?

Those details are still being discussed. Cohon has the power to make changes to close any loopholes. I think he will watch closely. But there is no way in my mind that he will allow teams to hide players in a FA cloud.

Things he could do is change the date of free agency to an earlier date. He could also impose a compensation for drafted players who return to their original team.

[Looner]

Re: Quinton Porter Released...

I think that's an irrational fear. Alex Smith earns starters money. So does Luongo.

He who performs best will start.

Except they never made that call last year. IMO Nichols was the best of the bunch, right from QB camp

[Angelus]

Re: Quinton Porter Released...

Except they never made that call last year. IMO Nichols was the best of the bunch, right from QB camp

Right, but Nichols is still very green. If he had as much time as a backup as Porter and McPherson have, do you think he wouldn't be starting ahead of Joseph and Jyles? That's my point. If these guy's were good enough, they'd be starting right now. Somewhere.

[Jtuck09]

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Right, but Nichols is still very green. If he had as much time as a backup as Porter and McPherson have, do you think he wouldn't be starting ahead of Joseph and Jyles? That's my point. If these guy's were good enough, they'd be starting right now. Somewhere.

Porter has been given every shot and has never taken the ball and run with it. I agree with you on him.

As for McPherson, I'm still not sure what to make of him. He's shown flashes but they've always been in mop up duty or meaningless games. He seemed content to back up in Montreal for the past few years so he's never really had a true chance to show what he can do. I think he has more ability than Porter does but I don't think he's been given the chance to show it. Maybe it's too late for him to show it as well?

[adb]

Re: Quinton Porter Released...

Except they never made that call last year. IMO Nichols was the best of the bunch, right from QB camp

ET who is no longer here might have had a hand in those type of decisions...I don't see the combo of EH/KR doing that now that they are no longer under his very dark shadow...I am hopeful that they will make decisions based on what wins them football games and that salary or who found which player (credit) will no longer enter into the equation of making player personnel decisions both in terms of who gets signed or in regards to in game decisions on who plays (which will prevent things like having 2 kickers running out onto the field at the same time)...I have much more faith in the current management team sans the Red Menace applying pressure on who stays and who plays...if Nichols wins out in camp then I believe he'll be our starter even if they do shell out more money and also sign a guy like Reilly to come in and compete against him...they're big boys and are able to take a little criticism from some radio jockey who might give it to them for signing a Reilly to big money and then going with Nichols instead unlike some other overly sensitive management types who shall remain nameless.

[tigerdar]

Re: Quinton Porter Released...

ET who is no longer here might have had a hand in those type of decisions...I don't see the combo of EH/KR doing that now that they are no longer under his very dark shadow...I am hopeful that they will make decisions based on what wins them football games and that salary or who found which player (credit) will no longer enter into the equation of making player personnel decisions both in terms of who gets signed or in regards to in game decisions on who plays (which will prevent things like having 2 kickers running out onto the field at the same time)...I have much more faith in the current management team sans the Red Menace applying pressure on who stays and who plays...if Nichols wins out in camp then I believe he'll be our starter even if they do shell out more money and also sign a guy like Reilly to come in and compete against him.

Well said and I think having 2 kickers run on the field at the same time was probably the lowest point of the season last year

[Shelby]

Re: Quinton Porter Released...

ET who is no longer here might have had a hand in those type of decisions...I don't see the combo of EH/KR doing that now that they are no longer under his very dark shadow...I am hopeful that they will make decisions based on what wins them football games and that salary or who found which player (credit) will no longer enter into the equation of making player personnel decisions both in terms of who gets signed or in regards to in game decisions on who plays (which will prevent things like having 2 kickers running out onto the field at the same time)...I have much more faith in the current management team sans the Red Menace applying pressure on who stays and who plays...if Nichols wins out in camp then I believe he'll be our starter even if they do shell out more money and also sign a guy like Reilly to come in and compete against him...they're big boys and are able to take a little criticism from some radio jockey who might give it to them for signing a Reilly to big money and then going with Nichols instead unlike some other overly sensitive management types who shall remain nameless.

Post of the year.

[adb]

Re: Quinton Porter Released...

Post of the year.

...all 18 days of it...

[cmbuk]

Re: Quinton Porter Released...

Porter has been given every shot and has never taken the ball and run with it. I agree with you on him.

As for McPherson, I'm still not sure what to make of him. He's shown flashes but they've always been in mop up duty or meaningless games. He seemed content to back up in Montreal for the past few years so he's never really had a true chance to show what he can do. I think he has more ability than Porter does but I don't think he's been given the chance to show it. Maybe it's too late for him to show it as well?

This has got porter/McPherson signs In Edmonton written all over it.. Lol

Lets keep open minds